Who IS Frank Zappa

darkshade wrote: Inspired to listen to Burnt Weeny Sandwich myself, a thought occurred; does anyone else find many of the compositions sound like stuff Frank would write in the 80s for the synclavier?

I see what you mean.  In the sped up portion of "Holiday in Berlin" and the frequent use of harpsichord on the album, there is a similarity to the tones he liked to use on the synclavier.  Composition wise, I'm not sure, but timbre-wise, yes.

No.

I'm thinking of getting CPIII last after I get the remaining posthumous albums, since I completed my collection of the UMe reissues. Good idea?

HolyMoly wrote: darkshade wrote: There's a level of "darkness" during some moments of the album, like those looooong held out bass notes. Yeah... like "The Crabgrass Baby".  There really aren't any other FZ tunes like it, except "Dio Fa".  Dark droney stuff.

Yea exactly.

Dio Fa is on Civilization Phaze III?

Just dicovering the Burnt Weeny Sandwich's album. Maybe "the" Zappa I was waiting for ....

Man With Hat wrote: darkshade wrote: Only thing that would make the album better would be if there was a solo somewhere, or some instrumental sections of some kind Broadway doesn't have that crap.

Took me a second to realize you weren't referring to Broadway The Hard Way. I was about to say, "uhhhh, yea it does".

Man With Hat wrote: My biggest complaint of Thing Fish is the redone songs with the TF vocals. Not bad, but I much would have preferred more new material. Still...I quite enjoy it. Still laugh at the ridiculousness of it all.

On my first true listen the other day, I remember feeling a similar feeling of wishing there was less recycled material. It doesn't ruin the album, and some of the new stuff is cool, and yes, the concept and outlandishness of some of the music and dialogue makes up for it. There's a level of "darkness" during some moments of the album, like those looooong held out bass notes.

Haha...yeah. I mean, there are points were it's funnier than the old songs, but I just prefer new material in general. Though, I must say I quite like Won Ton On. Works perfectly for me.


And excellent choice of one of your first Zappa albums.

darkshade wrote: Only thing that would make the album better would be if there was a solo somewhere, or some instrumental sections of some kind

Broadway doesn't have that crap.




My biggest complaint of Thing Fish is the redone songs with the TF vocals. Not bad, but I much would have preferred more new material. Still...I quite enjoy it. Still laugh at the ridiculousness of it all.

Only thing that would make the album better would be if there was a solo somewhere, or some instrumental sections of some kind

That's a good way to put it.