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UMUR
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Denmark Status: Offline Points: 3069 |
Posted: August 27 2010 at 15:18 |
Allthough the official policy has changed in the last ten years in Denmark towards less tolerance and more fines for even personal possession of weed, culminating in the closing of Pusher Street in Christiania http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freetown_Christiania in 2004, I still think most Danes are pretty liberal when it comes to Marijuana. Of course I canīt speak for the whole population, but most people I know think that legalization is the only way forward. Personally I think itīs a personal choice. If you ask me alcohol is a much worse sinner and not many people are talking about removing that from the shelves.
On a sidenote the closing of the marijuana trade in Christiania has brought a lot of bad things with it. Before the closing of the trade in 2004 people came to Christiania when they wanted to puchase their weed and while there were smoking clubs and pushers other places in the country as well before 2004, we now have maybe ten times as many now and most of them are controlled by hardcore gangs. Weīve even had a gang war going on in Denmark in the last couple of years with people getting shot in the street ( even innocents), which is pretty likely connected to the trade of marijuana ( and harder drugs). Something that you didnīt see as much of when most of the trade was situated at Christiania. One other thing that was great about the trade on Christiania compared to the trade in the clubs and at the local pushers is that hard drugs are forbidden on Christiania. If you caught with hard drugs on Christiania youīll be thrown out of the freetown. At the clubs and at the local pusher the kids are much more likely to be exposed to the trade of hard drugs when they come to buy their weed.
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Garion81
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 14:59 |
List of Pros:
Less people in jail, Less prisons, less prison guards, less parole officers, clear up logged jam court agendas, less money spent on enforcement, creates new local jobs and businesses, curtails some of the drug wars in Mexico, gets rid of dangerous illegal growers in national parks and wild lands, some medicinal benefits for cancer patients and others with chronic pain and a growth of public tax revenues both from tax on the product and less government spending. List of Cons: Some people will abuse and hurt others (i.e. traffic accidents) some people will get hurt on the job being under the influence, smart people become stupid, some people will wreck their jobs, marriages and other relationship through abuse, "What were we just talking about?" type of questions becomes a big problem in communicating. No brainer to me. It is on the ballot in California to legalize it this year and I am voting yes. Edited by Garion81 - August 27 2010 at 14:59 |
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Mellotron Storm
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 13502 |
Posted: August 27 2010 at 14:41 |
I think this issue is a moral one for most people. It's interesting in Canada how weed seems to become more tolerable as the years go by.At least according to polls that are published in the newspaper. I think at the least it should be de-criminilized.I mean to get jail time or a fine for having personal pot on you is crazy. I was caught once by a cop while smoking weed in my car ,he searched me and my car and found 1 joint that i had forgotten about.He crumpled it up away from the car as i watched and gave me a break.He didn't know i had a quarter ounce in my pants but if he had that would have affected my future i'm sure because i would have gotten a criminal record.
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JJLehto
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 14:23 |
So much wisdom And good point about Hendrix's death |
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NeoGnostic
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 14:19 |
The issue of Hendrix is void. He died because a prescribed drug he was taking was a much higher milligram dose in England than in America; the tragedy was that the British druggist didn't catch the difference and warn Jimi to take less than he normally did. An accident.
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NeoGnostic
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 14:11 |
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NeoGnostic
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 14:10 |
Yes...one never develops a tolerance to marijuana as with alcohol or most drugs. There are no hangovers. It has proven over the last 5O years not to make people insane or lead to heroin addiction and violent rape and murder.
Another massive benefit would be that HEMP would then be legal.
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: August 27 2010 at 11:58 |
The top picture looks like a bad trip to me! |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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The T
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 11:41 |
Relevant to the topic at least...
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 11:37 |
^ why do you have the impression that talk on the internet can only be relevant?
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The T
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 11:31 |
So what's the point on knowing if Hendrix died of drug overdose or of vomit or of asphyxiation with his guitar's strings? We are not debating whether drugs are good or bad for you (in most cases they are bad, though I wouldn't say 100%), we're debating whether they, and particularly THC, should be legal. They should. It's a matter of personal choice and liberty. If Hendrix took too much and died, it's a pity. He knew what he was getting into.
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A Person
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 11:17 |
According to Wikipedia:
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: August 27 2010 at 11:13 |
Drugs and pills if I recall correctly.
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thellama73
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 11:10 |
Hendrix died of choking on his own vomit/ But it was drug related, yes. |
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: August 27 2010 at 11:01 |
Didn't Hendrix die of a drug overdose?
Just a thought |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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A Person
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 10:55 |
Fixed. |
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CPicard
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 10:54 |
^I'm quite sure it's the contrary.
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jplanet
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 10:45 |
Here's Your Brain:
Here's Your Brain on Drugs: Any questions? |
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Negoba
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 24 2008 Location: Big Muddy Status: Offline Points: 5208 |
Posted: August 27 2010 at 10:27 |
I would put in one point. While someone said the Bipolar is bringing up another subject, much more common psychiatric conditions like anxiety and depression complicate this issue quite a lot. Most drinkers find that alcohol reduces anxiety (and sometimes depression) while they're intoxicated but makes the overall condition much worse. Similarly, THC has extremely variable effects - some anxious people get calmed and some are more likely to get paranoid (a known THC side effect). Sometimes both can happen depending on set and setting. Ecstasy can have some serious long term effects in terms of depression. These are powerful chemicals and even the seemingly most benign need to be treated with respect. Whose responsibility it is to regulate them is another matter. |
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Blacksword
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Posted: August 27 2010 at 02:40 |
A slightly off topic, but interesting and related article..
The Telegraph Edited by Blacksword - August 27 2010 at 02:40 |
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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