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akamaisondufromage
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Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Blighty
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Points: 6797
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Posted: August 29 2009 at 16:19 |
I think there should be a health service lucky dip. So when you enter the hospital you get a raffle ticket and if the doctor draws your number out of a hat then you get a free operation- otherwise tough.
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Help me I'm falling!
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Slartibartfast
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Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
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Points: 29630
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Posted: August 29 2009 at 16:06 |
So if you were to break a limb or say, heaven forbid, get run over by a steamroller you'd be able to pay for that out of pocket?
What's the student medical fee that you pay if you don't mind?
Edited by Slartibartfast - August 29 2009 at 19:42
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Vompatti
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Joined: October 22 2005
Location: elsewhere
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Points: 67407
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Posted: August 29 2009 at 15:33 |
Sort of . . . People who can't afford it should get it for free and the rich should pay for it if they need it. I think it's horribly wrong that I as a student have to pay an annual fee for my healthcare even though I never go to the doctor.
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Slartibartfast
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Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
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Points: 29630
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Posted: August 29 2009 at 11:04 |
Edited by Slartibartfast - August 29 2009 at 16:06
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The Doctor
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Joined: June 23 2005
Location: The Tardis
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Points: 8543
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Posted: August 29 2009 at 10:04 |
King By-Tor wrote:
no, only the upper-middle class and upper class deserve treatment because anyone who can't afford it doesn't deserve to live. |
Assuming that was a joke... Although I would modify it a bit and say that maybe there should be an IQ test prior to getting healthcare. Time to chlorinate the gene pool.
Seriously, I voted yes. I think healthcare is a basic human right that everyone is entitled to. While I agree that there are some who abuse the system by running to a doctor for every sniffle, perhaps there could be an "idiot" surcharge for those people. If you go to the doctor for something serious, you're covered. If you go to the doctor for a cold you're charged, whether you have private health insurance or not.
Further, I believe that mental health should be covered as well. For the person who says many people with mental health problems do nothing to help themselves and therefore should be denied coverage, let me ask, should we deny coverage to those who have heart attacks because they are overweight? How about denying coverage to those with lung cancer or skin cancer because they brought it on themselves? Or the person who breaks his leg during a skiing accident?
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Finnforest
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Joined: February 03 2007
Location: The Heartland
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Points: 16913
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Posted: August 29 2009 at 09:00 |
I'm starting to find a middle ground. I think catastrophic care should be provided, so that no one faces financial ruin over an illness. But I think regular visits and tests under a certain yearly cap need to be paid for by the consumer, with more competition involved. Some people do abuse health care by running to the Doc for every little sniffle, and these folks should either buy a private plan or pay.
But I do support families not losing their home and life savings because mom or dad get some deadly disease.
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ExittheLemming
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Joined: October 19 2007
Location: Penal Colony
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Points: 11415
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Posted: August 29 2009 at 08:38 |
King By-Tor wrote:
no, only the upper-middle class and upper class deserve treatment because anyone who can't afford it doesn't deserve to live.
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If Courtesy Flush (gotta love that handle) means physical health then YES If he means mental health then NO as some of the the sufferers clearly choose not to help themselves.
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Queen By-Tor
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Joined: September 13 2006
Location: Xanadu
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Points: 16111
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Posted: August 29 2009 at 08:12 |
no, only the upper-middle class and upper class deserve treatment because anyone who can't afford it doesn't deserve to live.
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Courtesy Flush
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Joined: August 04 2009
Location: Portland, OR
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Points: 32
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Posted: August 29 2009 at 07:55 |
Tis a poll
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