Covid-19 and the madness of crowds

^ Thank you for reminding me again why I am staying away from people like you. Fortunately I have enough close friends who know better.

Fortunately are insane anti-science 'president' will not be in power anymore, although he in his loony followers will still cause problems from the sidelines I'm sure.

All you have to do is read some of the comments on the previous pages and you can see why this is still spreading and making people sick, and in some cases killing people or imparting permanent damage.

Whether or not government measures are too harsh or not harsh enough is of no concern to me. I know what causes this stuff to spread and for the sake of all those around me I am doing what I can to stop the spread.

If you are still not sure how to help stop the spread, talk to your doctor, they will tell you. Do not listen to politicians with an agenda or conspiracy kooks on youtube or farcebook.
Edit: I also do not care about arguing about statistics, I already know plenty of friends and relatives who have gotten this, plus I have a friend who works in the local covid unit. The reality of the situation is obvious, I don't need statistics.

Edited by Easy Money - December 09 2020 at 09:31

Psychedelic Paul wrote: These are the  latest figures on mortality rates in England and Wales from the Office of National Statistics on the government's own website:- ons.gov.uk   Main Points   1. In August 2020, there were 34,750 deaths registered in England, *2,060 deaths fewer* than the five-year average (2015 to 2019) for August; in Wales, there were 2,379 deaths registered, *116 deaths fewer* than the five-year average for August.   2. The coronavirus (COVID-19) did not feature in the top ten leading causes of death in August 2020, in England or Wales. In England, COVID-19 was the *24th* most common cause of death and in Wales it was the *19th* most common cause of death, for deaths registered in August 2020.   3. The age-standardised mortality rate of deaths in August due to COVID-19 was *7.2 per 100,000 persons* in England compared with *11.0 per 100,000 persons* in Wales; in both England and Wales, the COVID-19 mortality rate continued to decline for the fourth consecutive month.

These are the  latest figures on mortality rates in England and Wales from the Office of National Statistics on the government's own website:- ons.gov.uk

lazland wrote: Well yesterday the official scientific advisers to our devolved government (the Welsh equivalent of SAGE) asked the public to cancel their plans for Christmas and stay locked up in their own little hovels. Personally, I don’t care much for Christmas, but if they think that edict is going to be widely respected, then they really are pissing in the wind. The politicians aren’t being as stark just yet, but Gething (our Health Minister) was looking particularly hangdog on the news. Hospitals are filling up again, infections are rising, and “our health service” is in danger of falling apart. Strange how they don’t remark particularly on just how sh*te that health service is. Even an infection rate of 400 in every 100,000 is only 0.4% of the population (a figure you don’t hear on the news). Of these, only a very tiny proportion will require hospitalisation. We are basically all paying for years of underfunded healthcare, across the Western world, not just here. Oh, and the news this morning says that 10% of health staff are either off sick, or isolating with the lurgy. Many of those staff have been treated like dirt for many years, and that, to me, is a far more plausible explanation for them being off work than all of them having the lurg. Either that, or hospitals are cesspits of infection, which is also deeply concerning. Actually, talking about that, a 62 year old chap from our neighbouring village died last week, and as he contracted Covid in intensive care ward of the hospital, he is counted as a coronavirus victim on the official statistics. What those stats don’t tell you is that he had a heart condition for years, and had recently suffered badly from gangrene. He was carted into hospital for an operation, and had to be resuscitated during the op, after which the poor chap got sepsis, which is deadly serious. So, he really wasn’t a well bunny anyway, and the official statistics should not, in my opinion, show him as a virus victim. I’m sure getting it didn’t help a great deal, but that was not the full story. As an example of the silly rules in place here now, I can pop down the pub at lunchtime to have pie and chips with a drink of coke, and feel perfectly safe from Covid, but only as long as I finish by 6.00 p.m. when they, and restaurants/cafes, have to close. However, I am banned from having a pint of beer with said gastronomic treat, as that, apparently, would increase my chances of dying from the lurg. Go figure. My Dad lives on the Welsh side of the border. My sister lives 10 minutes away on the English side. My Dad, even if he was so inclined, cannot go out for a pint in his village. However, if he were to drive to where my sister lives, which is in Tier 2 restrictions in England, he could have a pint of beer until closing time, but only if it is with a “substantial meal”, although government have confirmed that a scotch egg is a substantial meal. It is this type of micromanagement by government of people’s lives that so grates, and it is really starting to become very unpopular in the wider population, and not just ingrates such as I. There is only one thing worse than an authoritarian government. That is an incompetent authoritarian government. When we scream out for such people to save us, then we need to be extremely careful what we wish for. Hong Kong Phooey for President, anyone?

Funny how nobody seems to catch the flu..and almost all flu-like symptoms are equalled with corona.
How easy is it to control a large number of people? Fairly easy. All it takes is something they’re afraid of.

"The lockdown in Wales is psychotic and absolutely deranged!"

SteveG wrote: I certainly agree with you Steve. This type of polically driven farce is understandbly unexcusible. What are they doing in stores and shops? Roping off the bog rolls from the furniture polish?

This is not a shot at you Steve, but looking at the general population, I find the people who are complaining about this the most are also the people who are perpetuating it the most, oh the irony.

Edited by Easy Money - October 27 2020 at 17:46