Who IS Frank Zappa |
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darkshade
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 12:43 |
I've come to realize that most of the RYKO issues of Frank's albums are either bad or off in some way.
The UMe Apostrophe is the QUAD mix, meaning it is the same sound that the 70s vinyl had, but on CD. It is different than the RYKO version (though not as extreme as the difference in the RYKO and UMe mixes of Hot Rats) so it is good to have both versions, as I will need to get the RYKO version soon. Over-nite Sensation is mixed using the original analog tapes, meaning the sound is 1000 times better than the RYKO versions. More info here: http://lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/vinylvscds/2012hotpoop.html |
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 12:23 |
I own the first CD Apostrophe / Overnite sensation of the eighties. To my ears the sound is fabulous. Years ago I bought the Ryko version and hated it. How are the separate 2012 reissues of Apostrophe and Overnite ?
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darkshade
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 11:56 |
I haven't been on as much of a Zappa kick as I had been for the past 4 1/2 months, partially because I didn't want to get burnt out, but also because I've gotten a lot of new albums by other bands and artists. However, I've only listened to the most recent Zappa purchase a couple times or so, and they're all 2012 reissues. I plan on getting some more albums from the Zappa.com store, probably gonna get Civilization Phaze III and Feeding The Monkies... (and Buffalo if they restock it soon).
I'm starting to think that doing a Zappa chronological "marathon" is not going to happen until the summer at the earliest since I still have a few albums to still get, and I have to at least get to know them and any recent ones I wasn't already familiar with. BUT IT WILL HAPPEN! |
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darkshade
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 11:53 |
I think I've heard the first one before, years ago. |
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darkshade
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 11:48 |
See, it all comes back around |
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darkshade
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 11:46 |
I listened to the new 2012 Lather yesterday, always a great album, but I think the reissue had better sound, I did a little compare and contrast with the 1996 RYKO version (with the cow), and the 2012 one (with whip cream all over FZ's face) sounded a lot better. The only thing is the packaging is not so great, kinda hard to get the CDs out of he sleeves, and it doesn't have the bonus tracks that the RYKO one has. But I hadn't enjoyed Lather that much in a while.
Still have to listen to the 2012 Playground Psychotics, the only reissue I haven't listened to yet, also never listened to the album itself before. |
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 10:11 |
I came back to the music of Zappa by listening the two Roberto Colombo's album. Maybe someone will appreciate ...
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 09:59 |
Yeah. Who is Frank Zappa ?
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darkshade
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 09:50 |
Nice video!
Videos like that make me wonder why Zappa is not the household name he used to be, at least with people who are 30 and younger. If you say Jimi Hendrix, everyone knows who that is, but if you mention Frank Zappa, I guarantee a random person under the age of 30 will be like "who?" |
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 03:04 |
Nice Jim
Speaking of Lumpy Gravy and 200 Motels on TV ! Some words make it nostalgic.
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Finnforest
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 00:00 |
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TODDLER
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Posted: March 21 2013 at 11:51 |
We seem to be living in a world where to create uniquely, to challenge, to dare to be adventuresome and individualistic are discouraged. The hypocracy, greed, jealousy, and spiteful intrigue that premeates the music biz is disgusting, and in my opinion, anyone who sees it otherwise is naive or deluded.
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Larree
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Posted: March 21 2013 at 10:37 |
Frank Zappa on the Steve Allen Show playing a bicycle in 1963. Frank Zappa is the father of all things progressive in rock!
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HolyMoly
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Posted: March 20 2013 at 10:27 |
That show, by the way, was released by Zappa as part of the "Beat the Boots II" series, a double CD under the name "Swiss Cheese/Fire!" It's a nice show. Pity it had to end just as King Kong was getting going.
The CD is out of print, but the album is still available as a download. http://www.amazon.com/Swiss-Cheese-fire/dp/B001CBKMVI/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1363793169&sr=1-1&keywords=zappa+swiss+cheese |
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darkshade
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Posted: March 20 2013 at 10:21 |
^ The way Zappa is telling everyone to calmly head for the exit is kinda funny. Sounds like something that should have been on one of his albums, kinda like "the white zone is for loading......". Good set anyway, I listened to some of it, I do like the Flo n Eddie band so I enjoyed it.
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Larree
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Posted: March 19 2013 at 20:05 |
Just found this on youtube. The "Smoke on the Water" show! Great selection of early Zappa songs.Frank Zappa Montreux 1971 (the famous concert with the fire)1971-12-04 Montreux Casino, Switzerland - This is the complete recording of the entire concert, from the intro to the sounds of the fire burning the casino and the band's equipment. The song "Smoke on the Water" by Deep Purple is about the incident. band: Frank Zappa, Mark Volman, Howard Kaylan, Jim Pons, Ian Underwood, Don Preston, Aynsley Dunbar. tracks: Intro, Peaches En Regalia, Tears Began To Fall, She Painted Up Her Face, Half A Dozen Provocative Squats, Call Any Vegetable, Anyway The Wind Blows, Magdalena, Dog Breath, Sofa Suite, Pound For A Brown, Sleeping In A Jar, Wonderful Wino, Sharleena, Cruisin' For Burgers, King Kong (interrupted by fire). |
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: March 19 2013 at 16:33 |
The Lumpy Money Project/Object sounds great but it's very expensive. Maybe a next 2013 reissue ?
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: March 19 2013 at 16:28 |
Hello
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JohnnyS
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Posted: March 19 2013 at 16:12 |
As everyone says, there is such a range of music that comes under the Zappa or Mothers (or various combinations of) it's almost impossible to pin it down.
60's social commentary; We're Only In It For the money, Absolutely Free and Freak Out for avant-garde jazz, musique concrete, I'd say listen to Uncle Meat. avant-garde musique Concrete and classical; listen to Lumpy Gravy (Especially the original release on Capitol records, as re-issued in the Lumpy Money project /object release) one size fits all is great, in my opinion, along side hot rats. You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore vol 2 is a complete concert recording, and shows tha amazing musicianship of his band at the time. 70's social commentary I'd recommend Sheikh Yerbouti (but it is pretty challenging in places) And if you are in the mood for a spot of doo-wop, head for Cruisin' With Ruben and the Jets - but avoid the 1984 version with the horrible sounding re-recorded drums and bass. those are my thoughts anyway - and by the way hello, this is my first post! JohnnyS |
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: March 19 2013 at 12:12 |
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