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stonebeard
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 27 2005 Location: NE Indiana Status: Offline Points: 28057 |
Posted: March 19 2009 at 09:55 | ||||
Not even the leader of Iran denies the Holocaust happened, only the extent of it. To deny the Holocaust happened is to look at pictures and films and say that didn't happen, which it to live in unreality. Not that I care one way or another, I recently heard someone say that he believes 3-4 million Jews died in the Holocaust, not 6 million. A claim like this is NOT outright craziness, especially when supported by facts (it wasn't, but I imagine you can find "facts" for just about anything you want to support nowadays). If anyone would dismiss such a notion without investigating it because it's not-PC to ask questions about some things in our society, they are giving in to being slaves of popular opinion. |
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Visitor13
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 4702 |
Posted: March 19 2009 at 05:36 | ||||
Tell it to that guy, Blacksword.
I have a deep urge to troll that thread. But seeing that many people there have taken the time to dismantle his 'arguments' over and over and over again, I feel I would somehow be making light of their efforts as well. Edited by Visitor13 - March 19 2009 at 05:36 |
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Syzygy
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 16 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 7003 |
Posted: March 19 2009 at 05:35 | ||||
Paraphrasing the Macc Lads (to the tune of Blockbuster by The Sweet):
They'll tell you lies
They'll eat your pies
You wouldn't believe those
Fat s size...
Has anyone seen them eat?
They've never seen their feet
The fat s!
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: March 19 2009 at 05:32 | ||||
As well as offensive, Holocaust denial is pointless and pathetic. This is not something that 'allegedly' happened thousands of years ago, the evidence of which has been excavated in archeological digs. This is something that happened in the 20th century, and the tools, and a number of those involved, including survivors are still here to tell us about it.
Holocaust deniars are Nazi sympathisers and blatant anti-semites. While many folk, myself included, remain critical of Israel, in terms of the actions and decisons made by its leaders, to deny the holocaust is repulsive and profoundly ill informed. |
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Visitor13
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: February 02 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 4702 |
Posted: March 19 2009 at 05:12 | ||||
WARNING: This just might be not safe for work.
The depths some people will plunge to to prove that green is red - in this case that the Holocaust never happened: http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=230290 This is a discussion on the topic with someone called Gojira. It's quite long and I advise you not to try to make sense of his posts - you'll just end up losing bags of IQ points. |
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: March 19 2009 at 04:56 | ||||
..oh, and basic fruit and veg is NOT expensive. That is bullsh!t!!
One thing you'll notice, is that 'large' peoples trollies are always full of expensive confectionary, fizzy drinks, cakes and pies. You wont see anything 'green' beyond 'Viscount' biscuits. They always use the excuse that it's too expensive. It's not, and the rest of us KNOW it's not. |
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: March 19 2009 at 04:53 | ||||
The solution is quite simple.
The state should continue to pay their housing benefit, and assist with their utilities bills, but withdraw everything else. They should be issued with food stamps, exchangable only for food, not booze, fags etc. These stamps will allow them a weekly personal calorie allowance. The weight would fall off them. They could then be forced into work when they reach a certain weight. If they refuse to work they should be threatened with losing their house, and possibly going to prison. Hereditary condition, my arse! Lazy sponging b&stards! |
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: March 19 2009 at 03:42 | ||||
The Bullet - What can I say?
We all have that hereditary condition - it's called your-mouth-is-bigger-than-your-bottyhole; most of us manage this condition perfectly well.
See below:
AAAAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!! |
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Drew
Forum Senior Member Joined: June 20 2005 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 12600 |
Posted: March 18 2009 at 14:08 | ||||
No kidding!! Oh my............ x1000 |
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The-Bullet
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 23 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 401 |
Posted: March 18 2009 at 14:00 | ||||
FFS THIS makes me want to scream - and then kick someones teeth in
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Neil
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 04 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: February 01 2009 at 16:24 | ||||
Racism isn't really that different to sexism, ageism, following a different football team or wearing the wrong trainers. Unfortunately those who get lost in thought because it's unfamiliar territory will always find some reason to have a go at those who are different to themselves and their particular clicque. Let's face it, making fun of chavs is not really any different; they can't help being complete f**kwits. The problem comes when it goes beyond a bit of joking and teasing and becomes vitriolic or violent and unfortunately there is always an ignorant someone out there (usually a group of bored young males) who is prepared to take it too far. Witness the Brixton riots, football hooliganism, etc.
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mystic fred
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 13 2006 Location: Londinium Status: Offline Points: 4252 |
Posted: January 31 2009 at 10:59 | ||||
having been on the receiving end of racism i am qualified to tell you ....it hurts
some years ago i was doing some decorating jobs for an Asian friend on a number of properties, for various members of his family who appreciated my work. One day he said his old father's place needed doing and i duly arrived at the house to work out an estimate, i met his father who seemed a bit aloof at the time.
the weeks went by, it was a big job so when i enquired to my friend about a starting date he became embarrassed - i asked what was the problem and he said his father hadn't wanted a white man in his house doing work, and had given the job to Asians
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Wilcey
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2696 |
Posted: January 31 2009 at 10:35 | ||||
It's the pits. Last time I got the train home when my Mum was in hospital I was lucky enough to be in a carriage with a group of 16 or so teens, copiously drinking, smoking dope and in the case of 2 girls throwing up in the aisle. I couldn't change carriage as they had me and a sweet little old man trapped!
Yeah for me to visit my Mum via train it would take 5 1/2 hours and cost almost £100. At the moment, she's having a break in her chemo, so is staying with my sister in Surrey for a few days. She really is pretty darn frail, so I was planning to take the kids over there to visit tomorrow, it was going to cost about £70 (plus £20 in taxi fares as there is no bus to get to the station from here) but................ all trains east from Swindon are off this weekend, there is a replacement bus service but this "could add an extra 95 minutes to your journey" making a trip that takes a fraction over an hour by car a whopping 4 - 41/2 hours each way.............. not somethng that is really viable with the kids in one day (9 hours on public transport??? No Way, I could get to Miami in 9 hours!) Having just spent a weekend in Holland, once again I am reminded just how far behind mainland Europe we are with such stuff................ Yes Jared, you are right, I should learn to drive. I've only recently passed the dvlc medical, (hence getting Bertie) & I hope to start learning soon.........I don't think it's going to help me get the kids to see their Nanna tho. Just spoke to the boss in Cologne, he's going to take us to Norfolk when he gets home. It'll be cheaper, warmer, quicker, more comfortable............and I wont have to go via London underground which is a whole other topic! |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: January 31 2009 at 09:53 | ||||
I know I have to take into account running costs, depreciation, road tax and insurance of the car, but I would be paying those whether the car was sat in a BR car-park (at £12.00 a day) or schlepping up the motorway. If I simply ignore all those things and just hire a car (at £50 a day) I'm still looking at spending less than travelling by train. (and that's without even thinking about how I'm going to get to and from the Railway Station at either end - that's a minimum of £40 in taxi fares or the odious joy of catching a bus while weighed down with luggage)
For public transport to be a viable alternative it has to at least be in the same ball-park cost wise and there needs to be really cheap family and group tickets to offset the obvious advantages of using your own transport. Even then, it still will not compete on equal terms because my car does not run to a timetable, nor is it affected by points-failure or engineering works or get cancelled because they couldn't find a Guard.
Let the train take the strain? ... I think not.
(I didn't learn to drive until I was 33 - I've spent many years at the mercy of Public Transport)
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: January 31 2009 at 08:03 | ||||
Racism is appalling in all its shapes and forms, and often people forget that it's not just white folk who are racist towards Asians, Africans or whoever. I remember a particularly depressing taxi journey across town. The Asian taxi driver responded to a call on his radio, to do an airport job 'Air India, Flight number whatever..' He got the job and rubbed his hands in joy, announcing to me 'Another load of stupid Indians to rip off. I'll my meter on 3, they wont know the difference. Yep! I'll have that one' I asked him 'Are you not Indian?' 'No' he replied indignantly 'Not me mate. I'm a f***ing Paki, aint I. I hate those c***s' |
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Jared
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Online Points: 19879 |
Posted: January 31 2009 at 07:13 | ||||
a couple of years ago, they just stopped ALL buses on a Sunday full stop...in any direction..
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Wilcey
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2696 |
Posted: January 31 2009 at 07:03 | ||||
I can't live here without one either !
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Jared
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 06 2005 Location: Hereford, UK Status: Online Points: 19879 |
Posted: January 31 2009 at 06:45 | ||||
Learn to drive??...
seriously, you just could NOT live here without a car...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Wilcey
Forum Senior Member VIP Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2696 |
Posted: January 31 2009 at 06:23 | ||||
NEW RANT.
May I just be permitted to say......... British Public Transport. It just don't work. It's over priced. It's unreliable. It's pooed on my weekend. Now what am I gonna do? |
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: January 24 2009 at 04:50 | ||||
...ironically Mick has more or less replaced Paddy as the pejorative term.
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