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Points: 1402 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 18 2009 at 04:36
If you don't like it become an MP and change it. Surely the chances of getting into Parliament as an independent is better now than it has ever been.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

 
the average UK salary is £27K ($41K) ... of course that "average" is grossly skewed with the majority earning less than that.
 
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Try getting a half decent job in the UK when you're 51. It's minimum wage plus working tax credit - if you can find 30+ hours a week of course, or the Nat King Cole (dole). Sixty quid a week when you've worked all your life and paid God knows what in NI. Rant Rant RantCry
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Points: 7028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2009 at 15:03
............time to introduce firing squads ( Live on TV) for all offenders. The idea that politicians believe they can be elected without being caught out for anything dumfounds me. Shoot the Censored!!
 
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2009 at 14:57
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by limeyrob limeyrob wrote:

At the same time as recovering money from the excesses of expenses for MPs all money should be recovered from benefit fraudsters.



The government do a reasonably good job of that - they are a realatively easy target. It's the rich who don't pay their full dues that we are crap at getting hold ofAngry
True - there appears to be a perception that there is a difference between benefit fraud and creative accounting when they are the actually same thing - taking money that isn't yours.


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Originally posted by limeyrob limeyrob wrote:

At the same time as recovering money from the excesses of expenses for MPs all money should be recovered from benefit fraudsters.



The government do a reasonably good job of that - they are a realatively easy target. It's the rich who don't pay their full dues that we are crap at getting hold ofAngry
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At the same time as recovering money from the excesses of expenses for MPs all money should be recovered from benefit fraudsters.
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2009 at 03:09
+++coughfraud-squadcough+++

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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 15 2009 at 03:08
Differentiation is irrelevant when they have the (often used) excuse of "honest mistake" (ie "whoops, they found me out").



Have I used the expression "Thieving s" yet?

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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 12:07
£22K incidental expense allowance
£24K additional costs allowance

I'd love to see a government official asked to differentiate the two...
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 12:02
UK MPs get £64K a year ($98K)  this is before you work out their various allowances, including £100K/year for "staff" (which generally means Mrs MP doing a bit of filing and MP jnr licking stamps), another £3K if they have to work in London (hmm, where are the Houses of Parliament again?) £22K incidental expense allowance, £5K IT equipment allowance, £24K additional costs allowance, £40K winding-up allowance (whatever the flump that is), £10.4K communications allowance and 40p/mile mileage allowance (lets assume 10,000 miles per annum or £4K) ... making a grand total of £272,400 (...about $400K - which I understand is roughly what the US gov pays Mr Obama)
 
... it must be bloody tough for them.
 
the average UK salary is £27K ($41K) ... of course that "average" is grossly skewed with the majority earning less than that.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 11:36
Mr Chawner said: "What we get barely covers the bills and puts food on the table. It's not our fault we can't work. We deserve more."

I'm almost beyond a rant; just speechless really at this attitude.  If I were a British citizen I'd be foaming at the mouth.
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 10:04
^ probably busy claiming for a second phone cleaning cloth storage facility.
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 09:51
Bloody telephone sanitisers

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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 09:32
^ that's how we got in this mess in the first place LOL
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 09:17
If there's any Douglas Adams fans here, I propose you round up your lot and we ours, and put them on the "B" Ark.
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 09:09
^ what, by voting Labour? Wink
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Points: 7456 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 08:23
Everyone spoil their voting paper at the MEP elections, June 4th.
That'll tell 'em!

Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 08:17
Accidentally claiming mortage payments of £800 per month after the mortgage was repaid....?

....for 18 ing months?

That is theft - plain and simple.

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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 07:10
When I was a Civil Servant expenses claims were so heavily scrutinised you could get raked over the coals for being a few miles out in calculating mileage allowance. At one point it became so arduous making a claim that many of us couldn't be bothered with the hassle over a couple of measly pounds. These bCensoredds aren't fiddling a few quid here and there - they are augmenting their salaries to the tune of several thousand pounds a year - that's not "a simple mistake"; it's not even just "dishonest" but is criminal theft on a grand scale. It's about time we clamped down on "white collar" crime properly. I'd say bring back Penal Transportation, but the sneaky gits would claim travel expenses and hard lying allowance for that too.
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2009 at 06:19
A short, pithy yet heartfelt rant now:

Thief # 1
Thief # 2
Thief # 3

You thieving bunch of hypocritical self serving s+++s



I strongly suspect they're not sorry they did it, only that they've been found out.

Bunch of s!


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