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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mortte Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2020 at 23:32
Really hard to find strict information about support act from internet, but what I remembered from their book, it was quite soon after 2112 become commercial success. Naturally there were then support acts for them.
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So when did Rush start to headline shows and stop becoming a support act? Also, does anyone know if any Rush songs were played regularly on the radio(or at all for that matter)before the Permanent Waves album?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Polo's Lair Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2020 at 16:52
I feel like I grew up with Rush, Buying all their albums, keeping up with their news etc... I feel that I more than appreciate them, but feel like they are close friends or relatives. I'm sure many feel the same. So when something happens to someone that is a close friend or relative, it affects you in a way that is hard to explain.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2020 at 15:01
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

Sonuva...I'll have to check it. I hope the damage$ aren't too extreme.

Nah....My daughter got it off the Rush website but I think they are out now.........I've seen it on Amazon.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote verslibre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2020 at 13:30
Sonuva...I'll have to check it. I hope the damage$ aren't too extreme.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2020 at 12:40
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

C10, is that book loaded with ads for the shows?

Yes.....I am at the 2112 period right now. Up to that point there are many pics of posters and tickets from various shows.
I don't recall a tour book that is more comprehensive than this one, with notes on many of the dates.....the early shows and comments are really interesting read.
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C10, is that book loaded with ads for the shows?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 18 2020 at 11:06
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:


Did Rush ever play this live?



They did Scott, early in career........here are pics from the tour history book that just came out, my daughter gave it to me for Christmas, excellent book! This was on the CoS tour.




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Did Rush ever play this live?




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Hi, new here and have lurked for years to be honest but the loss of Neil has brought me out of the woodwork.

Not sure why his death has hit me quite so hard. I guess its because that this music we love speaks to us so personally. Usually we don't share our taste with family members or even close friends and the only time we get to be with others that are so passionate are at gigs.
In the main, its a one to one relationship. These pieces have sustained us during our darkest hours, or during our greatest triumphs and as such we share a close personal affection for the people who created them.

To be honest I just wanted to stand with some other Rush fans who understood
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 16 2020 at 17:12
I do like Rush well enough, though I didn't plan on getting their whole discography... only their 70's classics (up to Moving Pictures, actually) and one or 2 later live albums to complete... however, once I had those, they released Clockwork Angels, and I ended up getting it, and then they had a box set with their studio albums from the 80's, after Moving Pictures, at a very good price and I just had to get it... and some months later they had the next box set with the rest of the albums (except Clockwork Angels which I already had), again at a very good price, and so I ended up with all their albums (except for the very first). Now I only have to get some more live albums, since the ones I have already got sound very nice, and mostly I like better how they sound live than studio.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Everyone was influenced by Eddie, but the only one who can say how & when he influenced Alex Lifeson is Alex Lifeson.


True, but I seriously doubt that intro to spirit of radio would have happened the way it did without that first VH album. We all have our opinions but I'm not budging on that and I'm not the only one who thinks that. Like I said I never thought of it until I read it but again the site isn't loading otherwise I would share it here.

I did find this though where he mentions Eddie as a general influence. http://www.2112.net/powerwindows/transcripts/19960900guitarone.htm


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Ok, I did find it but it won't upload for some reason. I'll try again later.


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I got into Rush in 1976 when I picked up All the World's a Stage and tried to convert all my school friends who had never heard them. Devoured the back catalogue and saw them on the 1977 UK tour when they introduced Xanadu. After that, it was full on worship. Farewell to Kings through to Moving Pictures must be one of the best album runs any band have put together. Kept with them after that as they shifted style and moved to shorter, less proggy songs, but after Power Windows I have to admit my interest faded somewhat and I opened up to other artists - even though there were still gems in the albums and the live albums still kicked. It was the reunion that reawakened my devotion again and although Vapor Trails wasn't the best comeback, the R30 tour, Snakes and Arrows and Clockwork Angels definitely gave them a fine send off. A unique band still fixed into my musical DNA and responsible for some wonderful memories. Neil's death struck me hard, but I suppose it's allowed me to reconnect with their legacy again.
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Everyone was influenced by Eddie, but the only one who can say how & when he influenced Alex Lifeson is Alex Lifeson.

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

 ^  As a total guitar geek I have to nitpick that.   Eddie VH's influence on Alex pretty much begins & ends with with 'YYZ'.   The hammer/pull phrases on Permanent Waves were long-established guitar techniques and had little to do with Eddie other than that he influenced well over a decade of players in the late 70s/early 80s.  

Alex's new approach reminded me much more of Jeff Beck, and as you point out, Andy Summers.   He had matured as a musician and was more interested in getting to the point with tasteful, carefully considered phrasing, ultimately creating his own very unique sound.




The article goes into details about it though which sounded pretty convincing to me. If I ever find the article online then I'll post it here.
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 ^  As a total guitar geek I have to nitpick that.   Eddie VH's influence on Alex pretty much begins & ends with with 'YYZ'.   The hammer/pull phrases on Permanent Waves were long-established guitar techniques and had little to do with Eddie other than that he influenced well over a decade of players in the late 70s/early 80s.  

Alex's new approach reminded me much more of Jeff Beck, and as you point out, Andy Summers.   He had matured as a musician and was more interested in getting to the point with tasteful, carefully considered phrasing, ultimately creating his own very unique sound.


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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by Machinemessiah Machinemessiah wrote:

When I listen to Rush, I look for Alex Lifeson distorted strumming (and solos obviously, but those perfectly tuned up, distorted strummings always fascinate me; I play guitar and I don't find it easy to make the electric guitar sound so neat strumming entire chords, or chords progressions like an acoustic guitar, with distortion), also his unusual power chords and arpeggiated transitions (ex. Anthem), his solos with that blessed wrist for the vibratos and all kinds of color with harmonics. 

He really came a long way stylistically between Hem and MP.   By the time Signals came out ~ with his emphasis on phrasing, tone, and restraint ~ he was almost unrecognizable from the post-Page shrieks & squeals of his earlier days.



I remember reading online somewhere a few years ago or so about how Alex's approach(especially on Perm. Waves and later)would have sounded different without the first Van Halen album. Although it's been well documented that Alex was influenced by Andy Summers(and you can certainly hear that in some of the 80's albums)it's been mentioned far less frequently(if at all)that he was influenced by Eddie Van Halen when he first came on the scene. Yet the fast guitar intro at the beginning of "spirit of radio," although a bit different than Eddie's tapping technique(which itself was probably "borrowed" from Steve Hackett), would nonetheless be different without that first VH album. I read this somewhere although I happen to agree with it. I don't feel Alex stole anything from these guys. He merely borrowed ideas which is something most great musicians do. 
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Rush has been my #1 band for the past million years. I got into them around 77-78 and it has been non stop ever since.
Saw them in 78-79 first time......College, marriage, kids, caused a break in live shows thru late 80s early 90s, only saw the Presto tour with my wife (marrying me she became a Rush fan, and a huge Peart fan). We saw every tour in the 2000s to the last one, R40 Tour. Saw Time Machine tour twice in Seattle and San Francisco in 1 week span.
Our kids saw the last 3-4 shows in Seattle so it became a family affair to see a Rush show.

According to my Discogs collection account I have 43 Rush entries of LPs, CDs, VHS, DVDs.....And I have not loaded all my cassettes and some 8-tracks I have also. Plus I have books, tour programs and numerous tour shirts. Clearly Rush has been a massive part of my musical life, that will never change.

All eras of Rush are excellent, that has nothing to do with being a fanatic but a lover of great music and the brilliance of change.

Somewhere on this site many years ago I remember mentioning the day that Rush retire was going to be a tough, tough day to swallow. They are literally the last band to be able to put on live shows like they did with such grand presence and production, at least within this genre...there is nobody left that can do that....
Retiring from touring was tough although something kept telling me at least maybe we will still get new music but no huge tours, maybe a few shows here and there....I kept a candle burning.
In interviews (recent) Geddy has mentioned that there is no unreleased Rush music in a vault somewhere...

Losing Neil Peart was simply massive, 10 yrs from now I understand it but still he was only 67......Last week I read the announcement over and over and over just to make sure....The Professor is gone.

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Originally posted by Machinemessiah Machinemessiah wrote:

When I listen to Rush, I look for Alex Lifeson distorted strumming (and solos obviously, but those perfectly tuned up, distorted strummings always fascinate me; I play guitar and I don't find it easy to make the electric guitar sound so neat strumming entire chords, or chords progressions like an acoustic guitar, with distortion), also his unusual power chords and arpeggiated transitions (ex. Anthem), his solos with that blessed wrist for the vibratos and all kinds of color with harmonics. 

He really came a long way stylistically between Hem and MP.   By the time Signals came out ~ with his emphasis on phrasing, tone, and restraint ~ he was almost unrecognizable from the post-Page shrieks & squeals of his earlier days.


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