Your Prog Rock Hot Takes

1. Going for the One > Close to the Edge (the albums, but just barely).

Cristi wrote: Big Sky wrote: Cristi wrote: Big Sky wrote: Cristi wrote:   Let's not start with this Big this and big that, it does not help anyone with anything.  Cristi, The thread was about Hot Takes. Not one thing was said "except for not to be included." That's my hot take. Don't care what you think should be posted in a thread. I wasn't tell you what to post and what not to, just that a big 6 conversation on this thread is not a good idea (not a good idea in general if you ask me, but anyway...).  It's a thread about "Hot Takes." In general a thread on such a subject might not be a good idea. One member called Rush "trite" and "uninspired" when they attempted to play Prog. That's a take that could get the hackles up on big Rush fan. I disagree with the take as I think Rush's best stuff was when they went all out Prog. So be it. That's his take. I could have said Neil Peart is overrated as a drummer, David Gilmour is not much more than an average guitarist who gets rated highly because he has a decent melodic sense and good tone and that any rock guitarist who is said to be the greatest would purely on technical ability get dusted by a third year classical guitar student at say Juliard or Peabody. You tell me how the big 6 of prog is an important helpful concept/idea, how is it helping listeners of prog, and I'll admit I am in the wrong here.

Cristi,

I don't CARE whether you think the big 6 is an important or helpful concept idea. Really, I don't. And I could care less if you admit you are wrong or not. Frankly, I was not looking for you to say you are in the wrong.

But, to play along, it might be just a guide for those not up on progressive rock as a starting place. Going with a band they may have heard of instead of "hey check out Gentle Giant, Happy the Man or National Health" who, unless you are a big Prog fan, couldn't be picked out of a lineup if you had an arrow pointing at them. Instead "hey, who are some prog bands I should check out"? "Let's start with with some of the big boys. Have you heard of Kansas, Rush or Yes"? Nothing more than that.

Since I brought up classical guitar in my prior post, there is a big three of classical guitar: Andres Segovia, Julian Bream and John Williams. If someone asked where to start, it probably would be with one of these three playing a popular piece from Bach, Tarrega or Barrios. Of course, Ana Vidovic, David Russell or Sharon Isbin would be good choices too.

Cristi wrote: Big Sky wrote: Cristi wrote:   Let's not start with this Big this and big that, it does not help anyone with anything.  Cristi, The thread was about Hot Takes. Not one thing was said "except for not to be included." That's my hot take. Don't care what you think should be posted in a thread. I wasn't tell you what to post and what not to, just that a big 6 conversation on this thread is not a good idea (not a good idea in general if you ask me, but anyway...).

It's a thread about "Hot Takes." In general a thread on such a subject might not be a good idea. One member called Rush "trite" and "uninspired" when they attempted to play Prog. That's a take that could get the hackles up on big Rush fan. I disagree with the take as I think Rush's best stuff was when they went all out Prog. So be it. That's his take.

I could have said Neil Peart is overrated as a drummer, David Gilmour is not much more than an average guitarist who gets rated highly because he has a decent melodic sense and good tone and that any rock guitarist who is said to be the greatest would purely on technical ability get dusted by a third year classical guitar student at say Juliard or Peabody.

Big Sky wrote: Cristi wrote:   Let's not start with this Big this and big that, it does not help anyone with anything.  Cristi, The thread was about Hot Takes. Not one thing was said "except for not to be included." That's my hot take. Don't care what you think should be posted in a thread.

^Thanks!

^Out of curiosity, who are these 'Big Six of Prog' I've never found a clear list. Not saying I agree there should be a list or not, I'm just wondering what people consider those Big Six

Frets N Worries wrote: As a love of The Wall and hater of the Final Cut, define 'Less Rambling'  Granted, The Wall is by no means perfect. Stuff like 'Vera' and 'Bring the Boys Back Home' could've easily been trimmed.

Progishness wrote: Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: Cristi wrote: Progishness wrote: 'The Final Cut is a better album than 'The Wall'. better how?  At least it's shorter For some bizarre reason I've always found it a more satisfying listen and less rambling than The Wall.

Nogbad_The_Bad wrote: Cristi wrote: Progishness wrote: 'The Final Cut is a better album than 'The Wall'. better how?  At least it's shorter

Of the classic ELP albums (those first 5) Trilogy is the worst