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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 30 2013 at 11:55
OMG why did I not get Jean-Luc Ponty's King Kong album sooner?? Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2013 at 15:10
The Synclavier albums are definitely full of dense music requiring years to fully appreciate. An album like Jazz From Hell took me 4-5 years to "get it".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2013 at 14:51
His Synclavier stuff has aged well for my tastes.  I listen to CP III and JFH a lot more than, say, Apostrophe'.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2013 at 14:48
Overlap is an aspect of Zappa's entire canon. It's the big note.

I meant that since I don't know CPIII very well (listened once to part of disc 1 years ago, and do not own it yet), so FTMAMM is pretty much a brand spankin' new Frank Zappa album for me.Big smile

It's sparked a Synclavier-based album marathon for me today.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2013 at 13:11
The tracks are also expanded (or perhaps the original lengths? Not sure) from how they appear on CPIII.


But the same tracks appearing on two different albums as different pieces shouldn't be all too surprising
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 29 2013 at 12:16
I listened to Feeding the Monkies last night for the first time. Definitely needs more listens, but there was some great stuff I noticed right off the bat. There was also more... "atmosphere" if you will. Not really familiar with CPIII too much, so the ones on FTMAMM that overlap are pretty much new to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 11:27
I haven't bought it yet, but I listen to it regularly on You Tube for several weeks. The length of the pieces makes it very different from Jazz From Hell. Less playful, more deep. Speak with my heart of this record will take more time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 11:03
I don't know anything about it.  It's a Synclavier album, right?  I notice a couple of track titles that are also on CP III.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2013 at 10:53
My copy of Feeding the Monkies At Ma Maison came in on Thursday, but I've been too busy to sit down to give it a proper listen, especially since it has mostly previously-unreleased material on it. However, the cover art is really cool, with it's 3-D design. And good liner notes inside, though I wish the case itself wasn't so thin. I'm hoping to listen to it for the first time tonight or tomorrow.

What are your opinions on this album guys?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2013 at 11:17
Thanks for the link, but I'm just going to wait until my copy comes in the mail. I have plenty of new albums to listen to still (both Zappa and other stuff.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2013 at 11:16
It makes me think a lot of the album Fabulae by the french electroacoustic composer : François Bayle. 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2013 at 11:09
Just listenning to it. Synclavier works. Sounds great !
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 21 2013 at 11:04
I ordered Feeding The Monkies At Ma Maison last night. Damn does the Barfko Swill store charge a lot for shipping, almost 8 bucks with tax. But I am excited as hell to get this album. Most reviews I've read are very positive.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2013 at 20:54
Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

I don't know Uncle Meat yet. Which version do you recommend : the Ryko or the last one ? Are they different ?
I have the CD reissue from the late 90's (is that the Ryko one?) and it has the 37+ minute "Uncle Meat Film Excerpt" which I find hilarious...I'd highly recommend getting that one...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2013 at 20:46
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Had nothing to do for 20 minutes, so I decided to rank the top 11 Frank Zappa albums according to their popularity here at PA. How do you feel about this list? Do you agree with it?

Album         Amount of ratings
Hot Rats - 817
Joe's Garage Act I, II, and III - 521 (accumulated)
The Grand Wazoo - 438
One Size Fits All - 405
Apostrophe (') - 356
We're Only In It For The Money - 356
Freak Out! - 339
Over-nite Sensation - 317
Uncle Meat - 272
Absolutely Free - 268
Shiek Yer Bouti - 264

Hot Rats at #1 doesn't surprise me...but...the lack of "YCDTOSA Vol II - The Helsinki Concert" does.  I think this release along with "We're Only in it for the Money" and "Studio Tan" are the most prog-like releases in the entire catalog. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2013 at 14:50
Interresting post, Moustique. Clap Thanks !
 
 
 
 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2013 at 14:02
Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

Question : 200 Motels will be in the batch of new rereleases or not ?


What batch of new rereleases?
 
I kinda doubt it ... the Trust has a fight with a movie studio still going that likely prevents it from releasing anything ... I would, and force MGM/WarnerBros to come after me ... they would lose it in court because all they are doing it is stealing it, and not allowing the artistry of the man to be shown!
 
Gail needs to pull off the "I'm Number One" cover from Mad Magazine to the studio and define the work as Frank's and the Trust's and I seriously doubt that a judge will stand in his throne and not accept this ... and force the movie studio to back down and go home ... and better let this one slide, than lose even more in litigation because they lost it!
 
There are two very good documentaries about the time, place, people, and feelings ... and they are both locked up and hidden ... they are "Let it Be" and "200 Motels". And both are some of the best documents about the time, the place, the people, the insanity, and how the media became a total "nothing" and meaningless ... and that is one of the massive things that we failed to see in 200 Motels ... along with the Tabloid satire, which is massive! The film also ushered video as a great alternative for effects and ideas.
 
Unffortunately Gail is not strong on film, and neither does she understand this film, and its time and place ... in the end, she was just another of the girls, that got lucky and had fun with Frank the rest of his life. She has no idea, concept (at least has not show any inclination in that area) that even understands the "art form" and "its history ... she was just a fan that got really lucky, if not a groupie. And I think this is the hard part for her, and she is not willing, or capable of even realizing what the Varese thing is about ... she was in love with the guitar god on teh stage ... end of story!
 
But she has done a lot, and put up with a lot of crap over it all ... so I guess it's not all bad, but 200 Motels needs to be remastered and redone ... and I would start by releasing the soundtrack nice and clean ... and hopefuly force the studio hands about the film ... no money for them when the film is not available and Toni's version is horrendous!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2013 at 13:07
Apparently, those shirts are on Amazon.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2013 at 13:04
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 16 2013 at 13:03
I'll admit, I like the short excerpt from UM on the cd. I tried listening to it once without it and It felt weird. That part 2 though is terribly long and cumbersome.
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