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Caliman1964
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Hello Nada One, My avatar, yes, the blurry full moon. I think that fits me fine... So, I tried searching SPR out years ago, but not much around back then. But this is good now. I'm glad you like my effort and are willing to help. I checked out Guy's blog and rounded up all the artists he mentioned there from SPR and added them to the list. I also invited Guy into the loop via email, but he can relax and watch if he wants as he's done enough I think. So that page is done for now, I am happy with it. And yes, if I find more fun in this, I may start an original project involving other music from my collection. Maybe a web radio show. It can be easy to do if I keep getting green lights. Yes, there is a lot of great music yet to be shared and more to come. Imagine the possibilities, yes I have. I live on imagination street in a room with a view. I will keep you posted. |
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Nada One
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Hi Caliman1964! Thanks for the effort of starting a nice looking web page and listing the artists disclosed so far. If I can assist you in this effort I will. The "notify" setting on this forum brought me
back, I've been absent for a while. I keep up with things in disparate time
slices these days, but things are improving. And rumors there are of a legend
once thought to be forgotten but now appearing at the fringes of attention in
the new media; as if the Black Pearl drifted through a foggy interlude in a
modern-day shipping lane. It’s good to
know he is alive and well and has lost none of his potency. Who knows, perhaps
the archive effort may one day get a big boost if enough groundwork is prepared
ahead of time. And imagine where things could go from there: weigh anchor and
hoist the mizzen! Music is still being made my friend, and I myself am out of
the loop more than I care to be. By the way, I like your avatar. |
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Caliman1964
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This is my first post. Finally, I found some SPR fans! I too share much of the stories mentioned here, but I won't go into all that now. What I am interested in is how this post started, about the music. As we know, we can't share the actual music, but we can help each other find the artist names and titles so we can buy them. So, I went through all the posts here and made a list of the artists listed in this thread. I then added more that I knew of from my collection and made a master list. I think the list is too big to post here so I made a page here:
http://sites.google.com/site/kaliforniadreaming/radio/spr Likewise, much of the music from SPR that I know of was not Progressive (?) and does not belong here I guess. I am a fan of Progressive music and plan to come back here. Thanks. |
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Nada One
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We must never become "usual", remain unusual like the music, always new and exciting with no apologies
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Nada One
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O.K. so I’m loving Guy’s blog! All these things I never knew behind the scenes, at the roots of what reached out of Santa Barbara to become Space Pirate Radio (among other things). So little I had glimpsed behind the veil just listening early Monday mornings, but I always wondered: what kind of person could put on a radio show like this? Now I wish I had made the drive to S.B one of those broadcast nights. The thought crossed my mind many times back then. Sometimes it’s best to just boldly go – no plan in hand. Funny thing about the cars in Guy’s past: my wife had the VW and I had the Fiero – I still have the Fiero. Why would somebody keep a Fiero? But I digress… The Man From Uncle connection. The pun-intentionals. Those photos. The mental image of giant crabs crawling down Arlington Tower. Keep it coming! For nostalgia’s sake here is just a taste of the past I have set the “Notify me of Replies” checkbox on this post so if anyone thinks this link should come down please reply to this post and down it will come. My intent is not to offend. Edited by Nada One - March 13 2011 at 19:39 |
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dms1958
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OMG! I am so excited I found this forum. I too grew up listening to SPR and listened to it every Sunday night at midnight. So often I would fall asleep to it with my headphones on and be in a sureal dream state with the music. For years I have been wondering what the intro was for the Show during the late 70's. I loved it and it always included Bela Lugosis voice 'Listen to them, children of the night, what music they make. Does anyone know the group and song that was most commonly used to open the show?
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Nada One
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So here I am sitting in my room, it’s dark
outside and there’s actually a possibility for snow tonight in the Santa Monica
mountains above Newbury Park. In a way I’m feeling like I did in those early
‘80s when the familiar daytime world was enveloped by darkness and more obscure
things abounded outside, including Space Pirate Radio. I never knew or talked
to Guy, but was a fan of SPR which I found by just tuning around the more
interesting side of the FM band at night between the larger signals. What luck!
Things were different in the pre-internet days, radio could mean so much. His
show used to reach my make-shift indoor antenna and into a reel to reel for
times I did not stay awake. Sadly most of those reels are lost – only a couple
of cassette copies survived for me. I’m glad Guy has started his blog and it
was linked to from here (thank you Moshkito and thanks also to dmastous for
starting this page – I’ve been quietly following along with intrepidation). I
listened around the time of the 12th anniversary so I’m a latecomer.
I do remember that poster contest with the first-prize being a CD player. I
worked on a grand design of my own replete with LEDs but did not finish in
time. I kept the poster project for years for nostalgic reasons but it too was
lost in the shuffle of life. Now I see that poster on Guy’s January blog and it
all comes flooding back, prompting this post. May I second the notion of
dmastous’ Tangerine Tree effort if Guy is willing. If not then assembling a
play list would at least keep the music we all loved in common from getting
lost.
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AdmJedi
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Hello I also love Space Pirate Radio
I would always have it playing every time it came on and have tryed to find it again but...
And I have still get alot of the Music that was played on it and have quite a bit of it but would just love to get some copys of the shows if I could.
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Specter
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I listened to Space Pirate Radio from 73 to 78 in Oxnard California. When I first found it via a friend Luther Robinson it came on Saturday night at midnight I can’t remember the station but I was told it took over a Christian station when they lowered their power at midnight. I’m not sure if it’s true or not but it sounded go to use. In the 70’s we had two things going for us on Friday and Saturday nights other than all the parties. First on Friday night at midnight came Don Kirshner's Rock Concert, we got to see upstart groups like the surfponks, hookers and top bands of the time. I remember seeing Billy Idle on Don’s show before he was anybody. Saturday night at midnight there was Space Pirate Radio I had run cables through the wall into me room from the stereo in the front room and would barrow my dad’s reel to reel tape recorder and plug the cables into a Y and then the recorder. I’d go back to sleep knowing that the next day when I got home from school I could put on some head phones, smoke and cruise off into Space Pirate Radio land. I first heard some of my favorite groups like Pink Floyd, Nektar, Synergistic music and lots more on that good old station. Back then there were some good station around like KMET (a little bit of heaven 94.7 KMET tweedle dee) and KLOS that did play some of the good music of the day not just pop. And then there was the Dr. D show on late night KMET or KLOS I can't remember which one he was on. I can still remember Paraquat Kelly tell everyone on the air to remember to get your pot checked for Paraquat every day when he signed off the air in the afternoon. I don’t think radio will ever be like it was back then, they all had their formats but there were so many different stations to listen too. The DJ’s all had personality they didn’t just sit there and play off the recommended playlist it was almost like WKRP in Cincinnati for real. Now no one bucks the system and good music is hard to find. Well now that I’m off the soap box. It’s nice to see that people still remember SPR. I wish someone would put a collection of Don Kirshner's Rock Concert on Time Life DVD’s and Space Pirate Radio on a Time Life CD’s so I could just sit back and be again. |
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MasterTracks
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I have a copy of "A Christmas Maggie". Guy Guden's parody he did one Christmas. Also have some SPR recordings in storage somewhere.
There used to be a newage newsgroup where you could post a snippet of music asking people to identify it. COX Cable recently stopped carrying newsgroups so I don't know if the newsgroup still exists. |
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spacemissing
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If you are going nuts about anything you heard and haven't been able to ID,
welcome to the surreal world of SPR! Guy did offer playlists to anyone who sent him a SASE, but I never went to the trouble of getting any.
That'll teach me.
Instrumentals can be audibly matched if you can "correctly guess" who done 'em. (Rotsa ruck.)
Klaus Schulze, Tangerine Dream, and certain others are fairly easy,
but there are some that seem to elude "discovery" no matter what you do.
I have just finished copying the 35 complete shows I saved,
and I was able to identify quite a lot of TD and a few KS items,
plus a few other things, because of what I have in my personal collection.
I have suspicions about some others, and I am about to check iTunes,
and possibly elsewhere, to attempt to find out what they are.
Then I get to start copying and relisting what is in the compilations I made.
Some hints for desperate space pirates:
Steve Roach [by himself or with Robert Rich Kevin Braheny Richard Burmer Michael Stearns]
Michael Shrieve [by himself or with Steve Roach or Klaus Schulze]
David Sylvian & Holger Czukay Harmonia Peru (originally Nova) Sheila Chandra
Harald Grosskopf Edward Christmas Alan Stivell Frank Perry Suzanne Ciani
Laurie Z. Fred Becker Jon Mark David Parsons Double Fantasy Synergy
Peter Michael Hamel Eberhard Schoener Michael Hoenig Anugama Enya
Paul Horn Ashra / Manuel Gottsching Christopher Franke Krishna Chakravarty
Dead Can Dance This Mortal Coil The Edge & Michael Brook Sylvan Grey
Brian Eno & David Byrne Propaganda Jonn Serrie Vangelis Jean-Michel Jarre
Jean-luc Ponty Andreas Vollenweider Angelo Badalamente Danielle Dax Fuzzbox
Frank Chickens Icehouse Carlos Alomar Cocteau Twins Jon Hassell & Brian Eno
I didn't start out intending to take up so much space with that, but I have more than the above,
and of course Guy played a vast number of others that I don't yet know about, or don't care about.
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dmastous
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After starting this thread and seeing no reply after a month or so, I gave up on Prog Rock Archives until a few months ago. On a lark, and another Google search on "Space Pirate Radio", I realized there was actually some serious and fantastic response in the past couple years. Reading many of these posts gives me a sense that so much could have been, but was for only a while. Yes, the show was one of a kind, a work of "art" in and of itself. The songs are fantastic in their own right, but when added to the SPR mix they seemed to become more than the sum of their parts. My conversations with Guy always left me wish he could see the value of the internet as a medium for his show. No longer would he be gagged by profit hungry program directors and station owners. He could do what he wanted for as long as he wanted. I offered to host such a website, and he expressed interest via email, but nothing came of it. He seems to have a fear about the internet. Not of it, but of participating in it. So my SPR page has been nothing but a single page space for something to come. I disagree with the notion that these shows should not be passed around for all to hear. I'd like to see something along the lines of the Tangerine Tree develop as a network. At the very least I would hope to see some sort of list of playlists available so I and others can make some attempt to recreate the mood and feeling of the shows. I would dispense with the comedy bits, but that’s just my own taste. I do see strong Peter Sellers and Spike Milligan influence there. I’m sure Guy listened to a lot of the Goon shows back in the day, and it shaped his comedy tremendously. It’s a compliment that you can see the shadows of the Goons in his bits. But they are not up to Goon Show standards by a long way. For my part, I've already said I would host a list of playlists on my SPR page. I would love to be a curator of shows, and show playlists. I have shows that I am thinking about posting in low quality MP3 to give people a taste of it. When I get the time, I intend to do just that. I believe I've communicated with Moshkito about 10 or 12 years ago, and it resulted in my getting a few shows that I still love to listen to now. They don't quite replace the ones that were swiped, but they do give me some listening pleasure now and then. I can attest to the FACT that he did not profit from the exchange. A few blank CDs for ones filled with musical heaven. I never got a chance to thank you for them, and would like to take this opportunity to do so. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!! (or maybe it wasn’t Moshkito who did that favor for me…. maybe it was some anonymous Benedictine Monk ). Part of the impetus for my putting these shows up would be to get them identified. I can find the artists and songs when there are lyrics, but I have no way to Google melodies (anybody at Google reading this?). I have no way of finding some of the ambient pieces unless I stumble on one of them, or something very similar and search that vein. As I recognize songs, or do a search on the lyrics of one, I add it to my own small attempt a creating playlist. They are along way from being complete due to the many ambient pieces as well as French, Spanish, Japanese, and other shows in languages I don’t fully recognize. I hope one day, we can begin accomplishing some sort of catalog of SPR shows, and playlists before they are long gone, and the people who have memories of the show can no longer share them. They would be lost forever and that would be just too bad. Edited by dmastous - July 12 2010 at 16:10 |
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moshkito
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The sharing of the stuff on mp3's is probably never going to happen.
I have a whole bunch of it, over 300 hours, but Guy won't talk about it. I have the feeling that he feels that I have sold many copies already. I haven't!
Paul also has a pretty sizeable amount, I'm sure and he would be the librarian for the 2nd epoch (after the nuns of St. Guido's of course!) of the show, when I was no longer in Santa Barbara. Left in the fall of 1982.
I have not been able to share anything with Paul either, probably because of Guy's fears I presume.
I do not know if there are copyright issues here and have never checked with a lawyer. In general, where there is no money involved, the majority of cases fall apart in court. In this case it is done out of love and appreciation of music, and I am not sure that Guy wants to be sold, unless he is the doll and gets residuals off it. I actually have no issues with that, except that it would also open up legalistic stuff ... others may want the money! The FCC has not clarified the issues in regards to disk jockeys and their content, as far as I can tell.
But, unlike Guy's silence, I am honoring his wishes, even if I will never make a penny off it, or get any credit for it, or appreciation.
It's still the best radio ever!
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moshkito
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Hi,
For any of these folks that would like to check out what Guy Guden is doing ... you can get a little bit of fun and history from him ... no philosophy bowling yet ... http://guyguden.blogspot.com/ Enjoy it ... it's great to see him in action |
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moshkito
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Hi,
The thing that is saddest of all ... and I mentioned it to Guy at that concert in the Bay Area ... is that a lot of those bands owed Guy a big thank you ... a heck of a lot more than just a big thank you ... and I don't think he ever got the credit he deserved -- somehow the passing of crabs from a rock star was more important I guess!
Considering the state of radio and all the crap out there and lack of ability and desire for anyone to play anything except top ten ... someone like Guy is needed and badly ... but I am so sorry that he has some kind of feelings inside that he is not capable of discussing or replying to ... that's really sad ... and I will question what he is hiding from ... and why ...
Oh well, I guess I'll have to write the unauthorized biography ... but I am not sure that there is an audience for a discussion on albino nuns and their toaster habits! ... heck, I still like the English Muffin (whole wheat only now) with the Miracle Whip (Lite only) and a piece of cheese on top ... oven'd for a few minutes! .... and now I use some fancy cheese like Gouda or Brie ... and that's the extent of my bad food these days ... I only eat stuff from the Health Food store ... not skinny yet ... but getting slimmer .. finally!
Yeah ... but Guy ... where is the beacon now? ... did it die?
So you know ... it hasn't here ... I am looking to retire early (there is a possibility I will get a nice push here soon), just so I have some time to write all these things down ... and book on music ... and a publisher in Portugal now wants my reviews on the classical directors of film ... and I would rather sit by the fire, on top of Gibraltar mountain, with a small cassette tape ... and listen ... one more time ... to the sound of the wind hitting the mountain ... as we play out loud ... another hour of Space Pirate Radio ...
Ohhh ... the ecstasy ... I'm about to cry! ... there are no movies that good, my friend ... EVER!
I sure hope all this was about the art and the music ... not just you ... but yes, you deserve the mention and then some! Edited by moshkito - December 15 2009 at 16:21 |
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Apollo
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Thank you for your reply, Pedro. But, I was asked by Guy himself to respond to your posts. I think the animosity comes from him. I really don't know that much about what you've done except for what I was told. I don't worship him either. but he is responsible for the majority of my exposure to this great music. I consider us still the best of friends but he chooses not to keep in touch but once every other year. I know he has been reading your posts but doesn't want to reply himself. You can reach me at [email protected] I'm gald you were able to do some work using music from Kevin Ayers and Anthony Phillips. I am big fans of them both, too. I just love talking about this stuff and I wish Guy would keep in contact. At least, Elizabeth had been more diligent. It was nice to see her again at the recent local Jon Anderson show in Santa Barbara. Drop me a line. -Paul
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moshkito
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I don't credit myself for directing him in actual productions and never will. I did say I did a lot of the technical elements in them ... I find it strange that you are trying to make it sound like there is competition here between you and I and there is none ... Guy was not a mentor to me ... but he was a good enough friend, for whom I paid rent -- willingly -- so he would have a chance to do some radio and also write and direct the plays he did ... both Void in Wisconsin and Nothing is Sacred had a lot of their bits sprung on me, but then so did a lot of the famous Dracula production we did in that Cabaret ... for which both him and Tom Zeiher became quite well known ... So you can have the credit for your mentor ... I'm not into Gods myself, and Guy was, and is, a person that I happen to like and appreciate for a lot of things ... mostly of an artistic nature. I had already been around literary Gods, that were much higher up on a scale and weight ... and quite frankly, they were not as heavy as Guy was in terms of artistry ... but they were huge, and still are! Oh, and famous dad had his remains brought to Portugal recently to be buried with other Portuguese dignitaries, as the National Library of Portugal traded that for a whole bunch of stuff from our house in Santa Barbara ... I love Guy as much as you do, and artistically so ... but when it comes to Gods ... sorry! Guy was Guy and one of the best friends I had and did not mind paying the gas to go to Moby Disk so I could get a Tangerine Dream, or a new Ange, or something new he could play on his show as well ... something that I am sure you helped him do later, I imagine, and yes for longer than I did. The rest is not necessary, and who cares anyway ... you? We had a really good talk when we met -- accidentally -- in San Francisco with his wife ... where I was one of the shows official photographers, and was doing Gong at the time for the third time. ... he and Elizabeth were there for Porcupine Tree if I remember it correctly. 1999. Ohh, and yes, I'm still at it with all the music, although it is annoying to me (and to you probably) that it tends to all be labeled as "prog" ... it's just music, and really good music at that ... and yes, I still have the shows and have just recently turned them into mp3's but will not share them with anyone unless I have Guy's personal permission and it will have to be in writing. I've often wanted to trade up some shows with you so we could have a more complete library, but we have not been able to connect ... and I find the animosity weird for some reason. We, both, at different times, did our best ... is there anything else? For all intents and purposes I have not stood still since that time. I am, for the most part these days, a writer, which I was before as well. You can find a lot of my poetry on the Ygdrasil Journal of Poetic Arts, and at least 200 foreign/art film reviews on the Internet Movie Database and a lot more ... and ... over 250 more to put up! ... where did the time go? ... The show was important, and you and I know that ... and the stories? ... well, they usually become myths and then professors talk about it you know ... you went to college and graduated too! You and I and many others helped him the best we could ... so the show and other things could happen ... and in the end, the only thing that matters, Paul ... is ... we did it! ... and it was good ... and it was very good ... and Guy was even better. And for the record - in my words - ... you should really be proud ... that your mentor is remembered so fondly! And I am proud that I went broke ... but dang' it ... I tried to help ... even by putting up the money for an album! Am I complaining? NEVER! ... and yes, you were one of the actors at SBCC at that time, taking Mr. Whittaker's classes while I took Technical Theater because my English stunk! I wanted to do Film ... but couldn't. If it matters, I have done a film with Kevin Ayers music with his permission, have done a poem with Anthony Phillips in the background, and am working on a third film right now ... and yes ... I am trying to see if I can raise enough money to do a film ... with Guy -- and this time he will get paid! Will he do it? ... I have no idea ... and yes, time is getting shorter however ... he's 60 and I'm 59! ... there's still hope for us all, Paul ... and yes, I would also hire you for the production ... you are an honored member of the club ... am I allowed to say that? And for the record .. yes I DID direct Guy ... at least once.
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Pedro,
Please stop taking credit for Guy's work. You never directed him. I was in Casanova's Lips. I knew Guy longer than you and have heard nearly all of his various eras of shows. I knew him from before he started the show and have remained in contact with him over the years. Much more sporadically in recent years, though. I was involved with Love Rides The Rails, too. I've seen him in Nothing Is Sacred & Arsenic & Old Lace. I have many recordings of his shows from the 70's all the way up to the current decade including playlists. I have the album signed by him and many artifacts from theatre to radio. I also own quite a bit of his record collection and have kept up with prog music since the 70's. We have always been the best of friends. Although, when I did radio at UCSB's station KCSB, he thought I was copying his style until I convinced him that it was a tribute to my mentor. I started as The Space Ace and then a decade later did Pioneers Over C. He still lives in Santa Maria with his wife and does not do his show anymore. The radio battle is long since over. But, he has lost none of his wit. It's all still there. I wish he would return too. But it is not to be. Believe me I've tried to recreate the experience of that landmark show many times for my own entertainment. I lost many hours of sleep. I simply continue to support the music that I've loved since first hearing Space Pirate Radio. I've attended concerts and still collect many of the same artists he used to play. I consider myself to have one of the largest collections of Gong, Klaus Schuze, Tangerine Dream, Can, Amon Duul 2, Caravan, Camel, Gentle Giant, Nektar, Ash Ra Tempel, Ange, Kraan, Faust, Magma, Man, King Crimson, Banco, PFM, Le Orme, Kraftwerk, Hawkwind, Guru Guru, Genesis, Yes, Pink Floyd, Van Der Graaf Generator, Helden, Kevin Ayers, Mike Oldfield, Robert Wyatt, Kayak, Sadistic Mika Band, Kate Bush, Bonzo Dog Doo Dah Band, The Goon Shows, Popol Vuh, Alan Stivell, and the list goes on. You may have been his roomate for a time, but I've carried on with the music and humor that influenced all of our tastes. So let this set the record straight. Thanks
Paul B
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Hey Kurthu
Welcome. I too used to be an avid listener of SPR and religious about recording the shows. However, in turning on a friend to the music, I loaned all my tapes and never got them back. Anyway, I would love to hear your MP3's or know who the artists were. I have been searching for the music guy used to play . I have been somewhat successful. Any chance of exchanging some music? You can reply to me directly at [email protected].
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Dreamwriter
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