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Blacksword
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Posted: September 29 2009 at 04:48 |
New rant:
Is anyone else as sickened as I am about the the Fiona Pilkington case in the UK?
The single mother of a disabled girl suffered years of abuse and harassment at the hands of a local youth gang. She had reported the abuse to the police no less than 33 times, and no action was ever taken. The council also did nothing, despite her attempts to rouse them from their ignorant slumber. Miss Pilkingtons mental state went down hill rapidly, until she finally could take no more, and took her own life and that of her daughter, by setting light to her car, with both of them in it.
Yes, she shouldn't have done that, but hey you know what, some people have severe mental problems, which are exacerbated by the circumstances they find themselves in. If the appropriate authorities had done their f***ing jobs properly this could have been avoided.
Here's the problem. They are not allowed to do their jobs properly because current legislation effectively decriminises anti social behavior in the UK. The authorities can do little more than issue ASBO's (anti social behvaiour orders) which, for many youths are worn as a badge of honour. The government and the police wish to avoid criminilising kids, and have admitted as much. They dont think it helps them in the long run..blah blah whatever.. In the case of this unfortunate women, the gang, sometimes 16 strong, would assemble outside her house throwing stones and eggs, and taunting her, saying that they could do whatever they liked, and no one could touch them. They were right.
This country is absolutely f***ed! When the liberal lobby tell you just how important it is to respect the rights and needs of those who sh*t on the rest of us, just remember, that none of those policy makers live in areas affected by any of these problems. They are disasterously and hopelessly out of touch with reality. Exactly what qualifies them to have their cretinous opinions, I've no idea. F**k em!
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stonebeard
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 14:10 |
I just don't like to see people put smoking as an all or nothing thing. A two pack a day habit is going to wreak havoc, and surely not smoking at all is healthier than any amount, but as someone who smokes in a variety of ways, but generally never seriously, I don't like the attitude that everything will lead to ruin. I try not to make habits that I can't shake easily, which itself would bother me more than what particular activity it is, so long as it's legal.
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St.Cleve Chronicle
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 13:54 |
^Exactly.
Looking at my message now, after a couple of months it looks like I was really angry when writing it. Perhaps rightfully.
I have never smoked myself (and I never will), but I really hate to see other people destroy their health like that.
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mystic fred
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 13:19 |
St.Cleve Chronicle wrote:
OK, this is supposed to be a fun thread, but I just have to say something very serious
CIGARETTES SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN INVENTED
I have several friends at school who smoke, and for what I know they all wish they would never have started. And so do I. I am very, very sad that so clever and so nice people have started to do something so stupid and so destructive. From many of them you could never guess. The previous revelation was today, when I found out that a really nice guy with a great taste of music is doing the previously mentioned thing. (well, he really likes the recordings I have made consisting of prog covers and a bit of my own material. Don't want this kind of habits to any of my few fans). I suppose we are all aware of the... ehm... nasty effects of smoking. So, nothing about them, but here's a quickly written anti-smoking anthem. Sing to the heavy melody of Gentle Giant's Peel the paint with Peter Hammil-in-Man-Erg-middle-section-like voice:
(Don't know) How often you go to the house with the cross but too soon you will - in a wooden box
You still have time To save yourself Keep your senses sharp, breathing clean air
Cyanide and tar inside your lungs is nothing I would call healthy
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"..and curse Sir Walter Raleigh, he was such a stupid get"
in 2007 after smoking for 40 years (which included three serious quit attempts) i managed to "kick" the habit, but its tendrils embed themselves in your psyche very deeply indeed - nicotine, they say, is as addictive as heroin and virtually impossible to give up and i am still on an NRT program but have not touched a cigarette in two years. i feel very pleased with myself and hope to kick the NRT next.
I paid thousands of pounds over the years and have been rewarded for my dedication with rotten teeth and Bronchitis, which i will be stuck with for years to come.
There was nothing i liked better than sitting outside in a lovely pub garden by a babbling stream with a pint of real ale, a cigarette, and me best girl by me side....
Those days are gone, i can't stand going in pubs or rarely drink beer anymore (many of the old pubs where i live are closing anyway) but i still enjoy my busy life and do not wish to die in hospital full of tubes and mechanical breathing apparatus being told my legs have to be amputated like my poor Uncle ten years ago, or an old mate recently who died from septicemia and liver failure.
It's a free country, if you smoke you are free to do what you like but -pleeeeze- take my advice and try and stop !
Edited by mystic fred - September 14 2009 at 13:34
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 07:40 |
Call me a grumpy old Hector if you like but shouldn't serial abusers of those two promiscuous adjectives re 'gothic' and 'surreal' be frogmarched into a field and beaten until they beg for forgiveness ? That's the sort of reality TV I'm in the market for ANYTHING that is tenuously unusual or not bleedin obvious gets dubbed surreal - humour, art, music, movies, literature, cartoons, cornflakes ads, Garfield gardening gloves, fetish haberdashery etc (might need a raincheck on the last one ?) ANYTHING that does not directly involve puppy dogs, pink bunnies, fart jokes, the Bay City Rollers, Romantic Comedies or crying your grasping little heart out on daytime TV is designated as 'gothic/dark by the terminally cheerful in our midst.
As the NME's Ian Penman once remarked - TV is the glass teat in the corner of the room
I think I should lie down now....
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Snow Dog
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 06:47 |
Worse things happen at sea Dean old chum!
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Dean
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Posted: September 14 2009 at 06:43 |
Chipper People, do we need them?
It is time to outlaw "Chipper People", the world is too small for them and me, I would say let's move them to a small island somewhere in the middle of some dark forbidding lake filled with piranhas and alligators and sharks (freshwater) and leeches and candiru fish and make the shoreline out of broken glass and discarded ring-pulls and old cigarette butts and used condoms and cornflakes and put a razor-wire fence around it that's electrified and covered in poison ivy and make all the plants poisonous and all the snakes and toads and spiders are venomous and all the vegetables are brussel sprouts that have been boiled for three weeks and the only snack vending machine on the whole island is filled with flat Dr Pepper and stale Cheesy Wotsits and the only pub is a Dry County theme bar and the only cinema shows Battlefield Earth on continuous rotation and the only women on the island are their own mother-in-laws, (obviously there is another island for chipper women, but those are a rarer commodity and would probably fit on a traffic island in the middle of the A432 just outside Chipping Sodbury), and the only furniture is an unassembled bookcase from Ikea with one vital piece missing and no hex-spanner and the TV station only receives programmes that shows nothing but insurance adverts with Bill Nighy voice-overs and the neighbouring Island is a Club 18-30 resort with a 10KW sound system and it's always Saturday Night on that island and Monday morning on Chipper Island and the only milk in the fridge is on the turn and the sugar bowl has come from a staff canteen so all that is in there is one small solidified lump of coffee-stained sugar and there is a public address system with movement activated Tanoy speakers every 15 mtrs that plays "Cheer-up - it can't get any worse" and all the parrots and myna birds have been trained to say "Oh yes it can" in response before crapping on their heads.
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progkidjoel
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Posted: May 31 2009 at 05:32 |
el dingo wrote:
St.Cleve Chronicle wrote:
OK, this is supposed to be a fun thread, but I just have to say something very seriousCIGARETTES SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN INVENTEDI have several friends at school who smoke, and for what I know they all wish they would never have started. And so do I.I am very, very sad that so clever and so nice people have started to do something so stupid and so destructive. From many of them you could never guess. The previous revelation was today, when I found out that a really nice guy with a great taste of music is doing the previously mentioned thing. (well, he really likes the recordings I have made consisting of prog covers and a bit of my own material. Don't want this kind of habits to any of my few fans).I suppose we are all aware of the... ehm... nasty effects of smoking. So, nothing about them, but here's a quickly written anti-smoking anthem. Sing to the heavy melody of Gentle Giant's Peel the paint with Peter Hammil-in-Man-Erg-middle-section-like voice:(Don't know)How often you go to the house with the crossbut too soon you will - in a wooden boxYou still have timeTo save yourselfKeep your senses sharp, breathing clean airCyanideand tar insideyour lungs is nothing I would call healthy(etc.) |
I actually stopped smoking for around 10 years and started again. So not only do I appreciate your lines - I just feel like the biggest d*ckhead the world has ever known.
Mrs Dingo packed up around 18 months ago and makes me smoke in the greenhouse. You get nothing from the habit but addiction, smelly clothes and the more serious stuff. And I still smoke |
Stops with teh smokings! PWWEEEZE!
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el dingo
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Posted: May 27 2009 at 14:40 |
St.Cleve Chronicle wrote:
OK, this is supposed to be a fun thread, but I just have to say something very serious
CIGARETTES SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN INVENTED
I have several friends at school who smoke, and for what I know they all wish they would never have started. And so do I. I am very, very sad that so clever and so nice people have started to do something so stupid and so destructive. From many of them you could never guess. The previous revelation was today, when I found out that a really nice guy with a great taste of music is doing the previously mentioned thing. (well, he really likes the recordings I have made consisting of prog covers and a bit of my own material. Don't want this kind of habits to any of my few fans). I suppose we are all aware of the... ehm... nasty effects of smoking. So, nothing about them, but here's a quickly written anti-smoking anthem. Sing to the heavy melody of Gentle Giant's Peel the paint with Peter Hammil-in-Man-Erg-middle-section-like voice:
(Don't know) How often you go to the house with the cross but too soon you will - in a wooden box
You still have time To save yourself Keep your senses sharp, breathing clean air
Cyanide and tar inside your lungs is nothing I would call healthy
(etc.)
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I actually stopped smoking for around 10 years and started again. So not only do I appreciate your lines - I just feel like the biggest d*ckhead the world has ever known.
Mrs Dingo packed up around 18 months ago and makes me smoke in the greenhouse. You get nothing from the habit but addiction, smelly clothes and the more serious stuff. And I still smoke
Edited by el dingo - May 27 2009 at 14:44
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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St.Cleve Chronicle
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Posted: May 27 2009 at 09:40 |
OK, this is supposed to be a fun thread, but I just have to say something very serious
CIGARETTES SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN INVENTED
I have several friends at school who smoke, and for what I know they all wish they would never have started. And so do I. I am very, very sad that so clever and so nice people have started to do something so stupid and so destructive. From many of them you could never guess. The previous revelation was today, when I found out that a really nice guy with a great taste of music is doing the previously mentioned thing. (well, he really likes the recordings I have made consisting of prog covers and a bit of my own material. Don't want this kind of habits to any of my few fans). I suppose we are all aware of the... ehm... nasty effects of smoking. So, nothing about them, but here's a quickly written anti-smoking anthem. Sing to the heavy melody of Gentle Giant's Peel the paint with Peter Hammil-in-Man-Erg-middle-section-like voice:
(Don't know) How often you go to the house with the cross but too soon you will - in a wooden box
You still have time To save yourself Keep your senses sharp, breathing clean air
Cyanide and tar inside your lungs is nothing I would call healthy
(etc.)
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Syzygy
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Posted: May 27 2009 at 08:55 |
The-Bullet wrote:
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Bestiality and necrophilia - how perverted is that?
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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The-Bullet
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Posted: May 27 2009 at 07:27 |
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"Why say it cannot be done.....they'd be better doing pop songs?"
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el dingo
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Posted: May 26 2009 at 15:59 |
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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Dean
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Posted: May 26 2009 at 06:45 |
What does Chris want a goat for?
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Jim Garten
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Posted: May 26 2009 at 06:33 |
Here's your coat Chris
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Syzygy
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Posted: May 25 2009 at 17:04 |
limeyrob wrote:
New rant.
People who keep saying 'You know' when they are speaking. It gets right on my wick. No! I don't know! Which is why I am asking you, numpty! Whatever happened to Erm?
Coincidently, I saw a heron in Wakefield this morning flying along the river. Nothing in its beak as far as I could see . |
I went to a dyslexic rave recently and I saw a heron addict shooting up.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Dean
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Posted: May 25 2009 at 09:36 |
It's like, you know, when people use the word like for no apparent reason like. That really gets by back up.
Miraculously, later in the evening 4 fish re-appeared - no idea where they were hiding but they are now perpetually terrified. They've now got several short lengths of plastic drain pipe to hide in and I've covered the pond with a net (which I hate, but ho-hum).
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limeyrob
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Posted: May 25 2009 at 09:07 |
New rant.
People who keep saying 'You know' when they are speaking. It gets right on my wick. No! I don't know! Which is why I am asking you, numpty! Whatever happened to Erm?
Coincidently, I saw a heron in Wakefield this morning flying along the river. Nothing in its beak as far as I could see .
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el dingo
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Posted: May 22 2009 at 15:20 |
^
They don't like it up 'em (allegedly)
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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Neil
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Posted: May 22 2009 at 15:17 |
Don't tell him Pike!
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When people get lost in thought it's often because it's unfamiliar territory.
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