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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45588 |
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I don't know about prog puritans, but what the Beatles were doing starting with Revolver (some will say even Rubber Soul) and finishing with Abbey Road was unique and important to what will be coming later, prog or not. Whether you like them or not, they were important and influential.
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Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
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^I think they are listed on the site as "Proto Prog" which I kinda get. (Early influence)
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17964 |
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So then why do all the prog puritans think the Beatles are prog?? Which is clearly
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Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
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^ I think some of the prog puritans here think if the album doesn't have a 10 minute plus song it's not a real prog album. I don't subscribe to that view.
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Catcher10 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: December 23 2009 Location: Emerald City Status: Offline Points: 17964 |
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I'm the exception to this weird "pop" description of Rush in the 90s albums, which is fine its just a descriptor that happens in the prog world, if its not prog its pop.
I enjoy all those post Signals albums because of the nature of their influence at that time....reggae, synth/electronic sadly what always suffers is the guitar player. Both Geddy and Neil described very detailed why the music became what it was...The Police influence and sound that was so dominating during that time. Plus how Rush described the songs as mini stories that should stand on their own, not needing 20min to do that. Also Neil as a writer/lyricist becoming more mature and the desire to write about priests and Greek Gods basically going to zero. I look at each album standing on their own rather than linked in some way like some of the earlier releases, similar themes. Of course a couple not having strong legs like TFE and RTB. I think there is a common agreement that we as prog fans look at up to Perm Waves as the pivotal years for Rush, but not me.
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Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
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Well let's examine this for a moment, You said if I could only save 5 albums. I said Moving Pictures, Permanent Waves & Power windows which leave room for two more. Hemispheres would defiantly be one of the two so does that still make me a "bovine spongiform polyp on satans anus" Just wanted to see if I'm allowed to keep the title? ![]() |
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18521 |
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Ha! And someone who doesn't rate Signals (*) highly, at least in their Top Ten Rush album list, is a crusty relic whose lunar underside has mossed over and has to be groomed by leprechauns. ![]() *It only has Geddy's best recorded bass tone and some of his best lines, after all. AND some of their best songs. AND fantastic drumming. (Etc.) |
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45588 |
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You were trying to be funny? I could have sworn you were your usual insolent rude self, like any time someone disagrees with you.
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Skywatcher72 ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: January 17 2020 Location: East Sussex Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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I really liked Clockwork Angels - that may even be one of the 5
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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^ have you had your sense of humour surgically removed?
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45588 |
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God forbid someone thinks differently than you. |
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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And anyway, anybody who rates Moving pictures > Hemispheres is a bovine spongiform polyp on satans anus...
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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I happend to be in a completely ridiculous hypothesis mood...😁 |
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Jeffro ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2201 |
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If aliens landed and started slaughtering the populace and even though that was happening you still wanted to introduce them to the majesty that is Rush which five albums would you play for them, or try to play for them while dodging laser fire?
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Online Points: 18890 |
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I'd say clockwork angels is better than TFE. S&A is about the same though.My personal favorite Rush albums are in the 70's and 80's though. They lost a certain magic after Hold your fire imo. That album in fact is very underrated imo. I'll admit part of is because I'm a synth/keyboard guy and synths didn't really appear all that much after HYF.
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29362 |
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that's a completely ridiculous hypothetical situation
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45588 |
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Moving Pictures was released in 1981. I also love Power Windows.
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Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
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^ Well if you count Moving Picture & Permanent waves as 80's ( both released in 1980) you would be wrong.
Also, even though Power Windows is considered one of their more pop albums I like it a lot.
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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^ Argo. If your house was on fire and you could only save five rush cd's from the blaze...bet none of them would be from the 80's or later...
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Argo2112 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2017 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4462 |
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The 80's stuff didn't bother me. I actually like a lot of it. I was not a fan of the last three studio albums. From vapor Trails on the production seemed to get very crunchy & muddy.( Grungy maybe?) On the older albums there was always clear definition between the instruments, even on the heavy songs like Xanadu,2112 , La Villa Strangiato... They changed something on the last three albums & it just didn't work for me, not sure why.
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