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smartpatrol
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 19:02 |
because like minded people should eat cookies together, of course
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 19:00 |
^ ... and milk? ... Why?
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smartpatrol
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 18:58 |
That quote makes me feel yes that is what I think as well we should collaborate on the consumption of cookies
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 18:55 |
rushfan4 wrote:
Then there is the conservative side that says that God says that marriage is between a man and a woman and homosexuality is a morally reprehensible sin. |
"The hypothesis of God, for instance, gives an
incomparably absolute opportunity to understand everything and know
absolutely nothing. Give man an extremely simplified system of the world and
explain every phenomenon away on the basis of that system. An approach like
that doesn't require any knowledge. Just a few memorized formulas pins
so-called intuition and so-called common sense."
-Strugatsky (as translated)
Edited by Triceratopsoil - March 26 2013 at 18:56
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 18:53 |
I will be shocked if a bunch of evangelical republican nuts get something right for once, but just about every civilized nation in the world is legalizing gay marriage now - as they well should
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rushfan4
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 17:15 |
I agree that the government has no business sticking it's nose into what goes on in the bedroom of two (or more) consenting adults but the government does have a responsibility/(obligation?) to either protect people from being discriminated against or allowing majority rule to prevent people from behaving in ways that the "majority" finds to be morally reprehensible. Filing a tax return, a married man and woman have the right to file married filing jointly or married filing separately. Same-sex couples have to file as single. A married man and woman can jointly adopt a child. With same-sex couples only one or the other can adopt a child, not both. A married man and woman can have health insurance for the other. A same-sex couple only can if the employer or insurance company allows for it. (Granted I believe more and more do allow it). I know that there are other legal issues that are out there that currently exist as well.
There are multiple points of view, but essentially you have the liberal side that says love is love let anyone marry who wants to marry. Then there is the conservative side that says that God says that marriage is between a man and a woman and homosexuality is a morally reprehensible sin. And then there are all points in between.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 17:08 |
Larree wrote:
No doubt! Love is love, Not Fade Away!
Gay couples should have the right to get married in all 50 states. And everywhere else in the world, too. |
+1. What's with this idea of letting each state decide? Are we really frightened to lose some of our workforce to other countries if they don't like the (nearly) uniform arrangement this country might have in the future?
Edited by Dayvenkirq - March 26 2013 at 17:09
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 16:54 |
A lot of agendas right there...
But as previously mentioned, government has no business sticking it's nose into who marries who. It is pure and simple one's own personal freedom....................... like many other things now that I think of it.
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rushfan4
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 16:40 |
It is kind of a farce to have it go to the Supreme Court given you have 9 people whose job it is to interpret the law based on the U.S. Constitution, and yet there are 4 judges who will almost always vote the liberal agenda and 4 judges who will almost always vote the conservative agenda so it comes to the one judge in the middle who I guess will vote on his own agenda.
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CPicard
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 16:35 |
The name of this thread is a bit misleading: for a few seconds, I thought that it meant that some members of the U.S. Supreme Court consider marrying each other. My bad.
Anyway, in France, we're waiting the decision of our National Assembly on this subject. I can't wait for gay marriage to be voted, so there won't be any more manifestation on the Sundays, just when I want to go buy some comics at my comics store but get blocked on my way by right-wing or left-wing protesters. Get a life, protesters!
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 16:21 |
Government should either grant equality to all or stay the hell out of it.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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rushfan4
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 16:18 |
Forgive my naivete, but how does your response fit into the poll answers?
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manofmystery
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 16:09 |
Government should have nothing to do with marriage
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Time always wins.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 16:03 |
They should allow gay marriage in all States except Alaska so anyone who felt it was wrong would have somewhere to go where they wouldn't have to feel offended
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Help me I'm falling!
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 15:42 |
Like everyone else has said already "love is love"
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Larree
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 15:35 |
No doubt! Love is love, Not Fade Away!
Gay couples should have the right to get married in all 50 states. And everywhere else in the world, too.
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 15:30 |
Love is love
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
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smartpatrol
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 15:27 |
It's completely unconstitutional to outlaw it. I'm appalled that it's still an issue; it's so simple.
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rushfan4
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 15:24 |
Highly controversial points of view and positions here. Hotly contested and heavily debated. Would a wrong decision by the courts be enough to cause civil war, or just more controversy and debates? I suppose that there are probably a ton more choices that I could have offered up but will leave those up to the other category. I kind of have a general idea of how this will go, but I am curious to see it in action within our community here.
Edited by rushfan4 - March 26 2013 at 15:25
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