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Nazareth: Loud `N` Proud
"Not Faking It" came from the radio, so I decided to listen this album already bought in the begin of nineties. I have never been the biggest hard rock fan, but always loved dirty Rīn`R of Nazareth, Bon Scottīs Ac/Dc, the Faces and the Stones. And this album really has it! Most known piece is of course their great version of Joni Mitchellīs "This Flight Tonight". Itīs those rare songs, that I think cover is better than the original (also I think Fairportsīs version of Joniīs "I Donīt Know Where I Stand" is better than original, so maybe Joni hasnīt succeeded in her own songs). But this album has also other than dirty Rīn`R: "Child In the Sun" is good southern rock style piece and album end really great with over nine minutes version of Dylanīs "The Ballad Of Hollis Brown". That sad & cruel story has very impressive background with very distorted & effected bass & really haunting guitars. Itīs protodoom-piece, something prog also in it!

Kansas: Vinyl Confessions
Really big difference between this and earlier album! Well, this is still sounding Kansas, I quite a like for example songs "Play On" & "Crossfire", but on the other hand this album sounds much more commercial, also they really recycle their old ideas. It was in the eighties when I heard first time Kansas, when there came a concert from them in television. This album had just released. I really remember that I dinīt fully like John Elefante although I havenīt then heard Steve Walsh. Elefanteīs voice is quite close to Steveīs, but he really isnīt Steve. Itīs almost same as in Gabriel and Collins, although I prefer Collins to Elefante. I like this more than Moodies Other Side and itīs very possible you Yesesis will like this album, but I am not sure will I listen this again. I think I continue listening Kansas-albums, just because Steve came back to Power-album and I remember it be ok, although much more AOR than their old albums.

Kari Peitsamo ja Ankkuli: s/t
Kari Peitsamo may not be the most eccentric person in Finland, but I believe heīs on the top of that list. This album is really his fourth album, Ankkuli is the name of his band that played on his first album, but in next three albums there is just Kari playing guitar and singing (and doing piano in few pieces). Although heīs style is really naive, you can hear heīs a great musician and lyricist. But have to say this double album is too much even me, two earlier with their shorter lengths are much better. Also I donīt believe non-Finnish listener got much from his music.

Family: a Song For Me
The greatest album was the last of this day! We already talked about this in that "Other Side"-thread, so I just say I noticed why those five first Family albums sound so great: band just has so great chemistry and musicianship, although they line-up changes three times! In the last album I think line-up just didnīt work as great. But of course this album has just so great songs, really itīs hard to me say which of the albums "Family Entertainment" - "Fearless" is the best!


For sure. It seemed like when I listened to those albums, I liked all of them a lot except the very last one. And as you say, great musicianship! I think I commented more than once on that thread that they're very good musically.

About the Kansas album, ok well if I like it as much as TOSOL that would be great!
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Today:

Nazareth: Loud `N` Proud
"Not Faking It" came from the radio, so I decided to listen this album already bought in the begin of nineties. I have never been the biggest hard rock fan, but always loved dirty Rīn`R of Nazareth, Bon Scottīs Ac/Dc, the Faces and the Stones. And this album really has it! Most known piece is of course their great version of Joni Mitchellīs "This Flight Tonight". Itīs those rare songs, that I think cover is better than the original (also I think Fairportsīs version of Joniīs "I Donīt Know Where I Stand" is better than original, so maybe Joni hasnīt succeeded in her own songs). But this album has also other than dirty Rīn`R: "Child In the Sun" is good southern rock style piece and album end really great with over nine minutes version of Dylanīs "The Ballad Of Hollis Brown". That sad & cruel story has very impressive background with very distorted & effected bass & really haunting guitars. Itīs protodoom-piece, something prog also in it!

Kansas: Vinyl Confessions
Really big difference between this and earlier album! Well, this is still sounding Kansas, I quite a like for example songs "Play On" & "Crossfire", but on the other hand this album sounds much more commercial, also they really recycle their old ideas. It was in the eighties when I heard first time Kansas, when there came a concert from them in television. This album had just released. I really remember that I dinīt fully like John Elefante although I havenīt then heard Steve Walsh. Elefanteīs voice is quite close to Steveīs, but he really isnīt Steve. Itīs almost same as in Gabriel and Collins, although I prefer Collins to Elefante. I like this more than Moodies Other Side and itīs very possible you Yesesis will like this album, but I am not sure will I listen this again. I think I continue listening Kansas-albums, just because Steve came back to Power-album and I remember it be ok, although much more AOR than their old albums.

Kari Peitsamo ja Ankkuli: s/t
Kari Peitsamo may not be the most eccentric person in Finland, but I believe heīs on the top of that list. This album is really his fourth album, Ankkuli is the name of his band that played on his first album, but in next three albums there is just Kari playing guitar and singing (and doing piano in few pieces). Although heīs style is really naive, you can hear heīs a great musician and lyricist. But have to say this double album is too much even me, two earlier with their shorter lengths are much better. Also I donīt believe non-Finnish listener got much from his music.

Family: a Song For Me
The greatest album was the last of this day! We already talked about this in that "Other Side"-thread, so I just say I noticed why those five first Family albums sound so great: band just has so great chemistry and musicianship, although they line-up changes three times! In the last album I think line-up just didnīt work as great. But of course this album has just so great songs, really itīs hard to me say which of the albums "Family Entertainment" - "Fearless" is the best!
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Well call me crazy but I liked that. The second last song(Stay Out of Trouble) was one of the most blatantly filler songs I've heard in a while, but the rest of the songs were all good. Now, I wouldn't call any of them 'great' but they were all enjoyable.

I genuinely liked that.
Ok, well I believe you will like also "Audio-Visions". I think I will listen soon first time "Vinyl Confessions" (maybe even today).
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Originally posted by Mortte Mortte wrote:

Female day today:

Nico: the Marble Index
Again masterpiece! I have listened this many times recent years and itīs just sounds so great everytime! I think there came some documentary film about Nico in the nineties from Finnish television, where become interest to Nicoīs music to me. But it took over ten years after that when I listened this album from spotify. Anyway Nico was a true founder of Gothic rock, although I donīt know can this album personal music describe rock at all. Really also I donīt want belittle John Caleīs importance to add all kinds of interesting musical elements into Nico very minimalistic harmonium playing. This album is desperate music in desperate times, but to me always music that reminds my own feelings at the moment has always pleased me.

Slapp Happy: Live In Japan - May, 2000
I have quite recently started to listen Slapp Happy. Hadnīt ever heard this band at all, I was listening Henry Cowīs albums when noticed these two bands had collaboration albums. I really liked "Desperate Straights" and when noticing compositions were made mostly by Slapp Happy, really wanted to listen them more. Their two first avant-pop albums were really good, but nineties album Ca Va was too modern sounding to me. But this live with very minimalistic background and songs from all the albums is really much better! And Dagmar is just so lovely!


Oh, I've been loving their album Western Culture! I've listened to that easily more than any other album in the last few months. It's awesome to just have playing in the background like while I do other things. I'm surprised how much I've grown to love that album, the first time I listened to it I didn't even like it lol.
I wasnīt really much into that when listening that some time ago (not also any other Henry Cow except Desperate Straights). I may listen it some day again. Itīs not bad anyway.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Did you guys become the Bert and Ernie of progarchives?LOL

Anyway, I'll chime in at some point. I want to read the rest of this thread first. 


Yep, or the Laurel and Hardy, Abbott and Costello, Martin and Lewis.. whatever you want to call us lol.

And ok yeah, look forward to your input here at some point then.
Not knowing anybody else except Laurel & Hardy youīre talking about...(must be famous in US). But anyway I know I am a clown (and like to be that way)!

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Well call me crazy but I liked that. The second last song(Stay Out of Trouble) was one of the most blatantly filler songs I've heard in a while, but the rest of the songs were all good. Now, I wouldn't call any of them 'great' but they were all enjoyable.

I genuinely liked that.
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Well.. I didn't like that one as much as their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th albums. And probably not even as much as the first album. You were right unfortunately, it had a good amount of filler. The title track and Dust in the Wind were obviously both awesome, but beyond that... Paradox, Closet Chronicles, and Nobody's Home were all good. Umm, well hopefully the next one will be better. We'll see.
Thatīs how theyīre albums going next, "Monolith" is ok album but nothing more. I prefer Audio-Visions, but it could be that I have listened that album more than "Monolith".


Uh oh, I've nervous about listening to Monolith tonight now. Oh well hopefully it won't be too terrible lol. So off I go now to do that.
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Female day today:

Nico: the Marble Index
Again masterpiece! I have listened this many times recent years and itīs just sounds so great everytime! I think there came some documentary film about Nico in the nineties from Finnish television, where become interest to Nicoīs music to me. But it took over ten years after that when I listened this album from spotify. Anyway Nico was a true founder of Gothic rock, although I donīt know can this album personal music describe rock at all. Really also I donīt want belittle John Caleīs importance to add all kinds of interesting musical elements into Nico very minimalistic harmonium playing. This album is desperate music in desperate times, but to me always music that reminds my own feelings at the moment has always pleased me.

Slapp Happy: Live In Japan - May, 2000
I have quite recently started to listen Slapp Happy. Hadnīt ever heard this band at all, I was listening Henry Cowīs albums when noticed these two bands had collaboration albums. I really liked "Desperate Straights" and when noticing compositions were made mostly by Slapp Happy, really wanted to listen them more. Their two first avant-pop albums were really good, but nineties album Ca Va was too modern sounding to me. But this live with very minimalistic background and songs from all the albums is really much better! And Dagmar is just so lovely!


Oh, I've been loving their album Western Culture! I've listened to that easily more than any other album in the last few months. It's awesome to just have playing in the background like while I do other things. I'm surprised how much I've grown to love that album, the first time I listened to it I didn't even like it lol.
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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Did you guys become the Bert and Ernie of progarchives?LOL

Anyway, I'll chime in at some point. I want to read the rest of this thread first. 


Yep, or the Laurel and Hardy, Abbott and Costello, Martin and Lewis.. whatever you want to call us lol.

And ok yeah, look forward to your input here at some point then.
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Did you guys become the Bert and Ernie of progarchives?LOL

Anyway, I'll chime in at some point. I want to read the rest of this thread first. 
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Female day today:

Nico: the Marble Index
Again masterpiece! I have listened this many times recent years and itīs just sounds so great everytime! I think there came some documentary film about Nico in the nineties from Finnish television, where become interest to Nicoīs music to me. But it took over ten years after that when I listened this album from spotify. Anyway Nico was a true founder of Gothic rock, although I donīt know can this album personal music describe rock at all. Really also I donīt want belittle John Caleīs importance to add all kinds of interesting musical elements into Nico very minimalistic harmonium playing. This album is desperate music in desperate times, but to me always music that reminds my own feelings at the moment has always pleased me.

Slapp Happy: Live In Japan - May, 2000
I have quite recently started to listen Slapp Happy. Hadnīt ever heard this band at all, I was listening Henry Cowīs albums when noticed these two bands had collaboration albums. I really liked "Desperate Straights" and when noticing compositions were made mostly by Slapp Happy, really wanted to listen them more. Their two first avant-pop albums were really good, but nineties album Ca Va was too modern sounding to me. But this live with very minimalistic background and songs from all the albums is really much better! And Dagmar is just so lovely!
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Well.. I didn't like that one as much as their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th albums. And probably not even as much as the first album. You were right unfortunately, it had a good amount of filler. The title track and Dust in the Wind were obviously both awesome, but beyond that... Paradox, Closet Chronicles, and Nobody's Home were all good. Umm, well hopefully the next one will be better. We'll see.
Thatīs how theyīre albums going next, "Monolith" is ok album but nothing more. I prefer Audio-Visions, but it could be that I have listened that album more than "Monolith".
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And about that very important and primal question...I am Stones guy, although really love also Beatles! But if Stones is not the most irritating band for you, I really recommend you to try some of their albums sometime (maybe very psychedelic and really underrated "Their Satanic Majesties Request"?)


What. I'm not going to listen to an album with a title like that lol. This is why I don't listen to artists like Opeth. I mean am I going to listen to the band that sings Sympathy... or the band that sings All You Need Is Love. You know, I'm Beatles. That's it.

Of course you have right to choose what you listen, but have to say that what I know that title is intent to Brit Queen, not to be "loving of the evil powers". There really are no texts about Satan in that album. But of course, there are lots of greater albums in the world.
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And about that very important and primal question...I am Stones guy, although really love also Beatles! But if Stones is not the most irritating band for you, I really recommend you to try some of their albums sometime (maybe very psychedelic and really underrated "Their Satanic Majesties Request"?)


What. I'm not going to listen to an album with a title like that lol. This is why I don't listen to artists like Opeth. I mean am I going to listen to the band that sings Sympathy... or the band that sings All You Need Is Love. You know, I'm Beatles. That's it.

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Well.. I didn't like that one as much as their 2nd, 3rd, and 4th albums. And probably not even as much as the first album. You were right unfortunately, it had a good amount of filler. The title track and Dust in the Wind were obviously both awesome, but beyond that... Paradox, Closet Chronicles, and Nobody's Home were all good. Umm, well hopefully the next one will be better. We'll see.
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Todayīs 5 albums, in tuesdays I mostly havenīt got much to do after work, so time to listen:

Meat Puppets: Rise To Your Knees
This band was a big favorite of Kurt Kobain, there are lots in common of Nirvana & MP, but I think Puppets are so much greater! My faves from them are "Meat Puppets II" & "Up On the Sun", but because they released last year really good album, I decided to listen their all albums. And all of them I have listened (only 3 left to listen) have been at least good! In this album they have travelled quite far away from their HC-punk roots, this is more a kind of The Byrds-album with little more electric guitars. A great mix of sixties psych, country music & 2000`s alternative/indie music.

Nomeasno: Why Do They Call Me Mr. Happy?
Nomeasno is to me no. 1 Canadian band! They may have never made as great album as Rush in "Hemispheres", but also they really havenīt ever made any boring AOR. This band got respect in punk circles in eighties/nineties, but itīs quite sad todayīs the band seems to be quite unknown. Really I believe many proglisteners who havenīt got anything against punk attitude will enjoy this band! In this album Wright brothers were again alone, as they were in their first album, when guitarist Andy Kerr left. But Rob played lots of guitar in this album, because theyīre going to add new guitarist. Anyway if you like really big energy music with great drumplaying (John didnīt loose much to Bruford), great groovy bass (Rob has Fender Jazz bass and ampeg-amplifer, just so great sound), this is your band!

David McWilliams: David McWilliams Vol.2
They have played really much "Days Of Pearly Spencer" in one Finnish radio channel last half year and I still like that song (I am not sure have I heard it before, I think I must) so I have to listen the whole album from that guy. Heīs really great singer and really enjoy those great sixties style arrangements in this album, but really not the greatest album of 1967, I think this is in the same level as Bowieīs first from the same year.

Kansas: Audio-Visions
Just noticed itīs almost 30 years I have listened this before! Really sounded much better than I remembered, I havenīt heard those "Elefante"-albums, but at least next two Walsh-albums are much more AOR than this, I believe this could be the last really good Kansas album. My faves from this album are "Relentless", "Hold On", "Curtain Of Iron" & "No One Together". Just read from Wiki album probably was too prog in 1980 to Rolling Stone-magazine, for example they mocked then Livgren as "Kerry Liver".

The Marketts: The Marketts Take To Wheels
I am huge the Ventures-fan. Their version of "Out Of Limits" has been one of biggest favorites. I noticed not long ago I had heard the Marketts original version only that short time in "Pulp Fiction"-movie. So I decided to listen whole "Out Of Limits"-album by the Marketts. I liked it quite much so I decided to listen this album also. I didnīt like this as much, but anyway this was really cheerful, grooving sixties instrumental pop/rock-album!


Oh no, I hope not. Well anyway hopefully a few albums still until I get to that one. I'm enjoying these! And yep you're right, Point of Know Return is up next. Going right now to listen to it.
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And about that very important and primal question...I am Stones guy, although really love also Beatles! But if Stones is not the most irritating band for you, I really recommend you to try some of their albums sometime (maybe very psychedelic and really underrated "Their Satanic Majesties Request"?)


What. I'm not going to listen to an album with a title like that lol. This is why I don't listen to artists like Opeth. I mean am I going to listen to the band that sings Sympathy... or the band that sings All You Need Is Love. You know, I'm Beatles. That's it.

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Todayīs 5 albums, in tuesdays I mostly havenīt got much to do after work, so time to listen:

Meat Puppets: Rise To Your Knees
This band was a big favorite of Kurt Kobain, there are lots in common of Nirvana & MP, but I think Puppets are so much greater! My faves from them are "Meat Puppets II" & "Up On the Sun", but because they released last year really good album, I decided to listen their all albums. And all of them I have listened (only 3 left to listen) have been at least good! In this album they have travelled quite far away from their HC-punk roots, this is more a kind of The Byrds-album with little more electric guitars. A great mix of sixties psych, country music & 2000`s alternative/indie music.

Nomeasno: Why Do They Call Me Mr. Happy?
Nomeasno is to me no. 1 Canadian band! They may have never made as great album as Rush in "Hemispheres", but also they really havenīt ever made any boring AOR. This band got respect in punk circles in eighties/nineties, but itīs quite sad todayīs the band seems to be quite unknown. Really I believe many proglisteners who havenīt got anything against punk attitude will enjoy this band! In this album Wright brothers were again alone, as they were in their first album, when guitarist Andy Kerr left. But Rob played lots of guitar in this album, because theyīre going to add new guitarist. Anyway if you like really big energy music with great drumplaying (John didnīt loose much to Bruford), great groovy bass (Rob has Fender Jazz bass and ampeg-amplifer, just so great sound), this is your band!

David McWilliams: David McWilliams Vol.2
They have played really much "Days Of Pearly Spencer" in one Finnish radio channel last half year and I still like that song (I am not sure have I heard it before, I think I must) so I have to listen the whole album from that guy. Heīs really great singer and really enjoy those great sixties style arrangements in this album, but really not the greatest album of 1967, I think this is in the same level as Bowieīs first from the same year.

Kansas: Audio-Visions
Just noticed itīs almost 30 years I have listened this before! Really sounded much better than I remembered, I havenīt heard those "Elefante"-albums, but at least next two Walsh-albums are much more AOR than this, I believe this could be the last really good Kansas album. My faves from this album are "Relentless", "Hold On", "Curtain Of Iron" & "No One Together". Just read from Wiki album probably was too prog in 1980 to Rolling Stone-magazine, for example they mocked then Livgren as "Kerry Liver".

The Marketts: The Marketts Take To Wheels
I am huge the Ventures-fan. Their version of "Out Of Limits" has been one of biggest favorites. I noticed not long ago I had heard the Marketts original version only that short time in "Pulp Fiction"-movie. So I decided to listen whole "Out Of Limits"-album by the Marketts. I liked it quite much so I decided to listen this album also. I didnīt like this as much, but anyway this was really cheerful, grooving sixties instrumental pop/rock-album!
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You were right, that was really good. The only song that was even close to being weak imo was Opus Insert. All the rest of the songs were really good. Obviously the opening track still plays on the radio all the time. Getting funky there in Miracles out of Nowhere. Some kickin keyboards in Cheyenne Anthem. Yeah strong album obviously. Right on.
My faves of this great album are "The Wall", "Miracles" & "Magnum Opus" (the most prog piece of Kansas). But not any really weak songs in it! I think you knew it, but "Point" is also their greatest albums, but to me not rise into level of "Leftoverture". It has also some weak tracks like all the other Kansas albums.
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Two very different albums today:

the Rolling Stones: Goats Head Soup
When talking about best Stones album, itīs many Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers or Exile on Main St. Itīs also Beggars to me, but Goats goes really close too! Itīs just the best period of Stones was when Mick Taylor was in it (+Beggars). Also, this album is highly recommended to those, who are bored for radios overplay of some certain Stones songs - Hereīs only "Angie" to skip to them (to me also it sounds still great). Here are dirty, great Stones rockers: "Dancing With Mr. D", "Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker), "Silver Train" and Berryrocker "Star Star", acid-sixties-style pieces "100 Years Ago" & "Can You Hear the Music" and great ballads "Winter" and my fav Keith-sung piece "Coming Down". All the Stones fans original vinyl version with "Goat" poster is must!

Yes: Union
There was a thread of this album - I think I said there this is weakest Yes-album IMO. The reason is production, I donīt think there isnīt colder sounds made in 1991! But today I noticed I have started to get used to them, album sounded really great! Only songs I donīt care much are "Saving My Heart" and "Dangerous" (sounds to me they tried to do "Owner Of a Lonely Heart" of 1991). I can say only that Yes hasnīt made a bad album! I havenīt got any Yes-studio-vinyls after Big Generator (except Open Your Eyes), but the great cover of Dean is really not the only reason to get this!


With Yes I really don't listen to anything after Big Generator either. But it sounds like you think this album is decent... hmmm maybe I'll listen to it again sometime. I did listen to it once(or twice) quite a while ago and thought it was ok, but not impressed enough to ever listen again lol. Maybe I will sometime though.

The Rolling Stones I... I'm a Beatles guy.
I think you should try it, it really has grown to me with more listenings. Also I think it has quite same level of prog as "Big Generator", although really not rise in the level of that.

And about that very important and primal question...I am Stones guy, although really love also Beatles! But if Stones is not the most irritating band for you, I really recommend you to try some of their albums sometime (maybe very psychedelic and really underrated "Their Satanic Majesties Request"?)
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