I don't like Yes.

Yep, The Gods, with Ken Hensley (from memory). His bass on Schizoid Man is incredibly complex. He plays amazing lines. His successor, Pete Giles, was also very good. Natural talents I guess. I've played bass for some years and still can't nail Schizoid Man.........(I must be sh*t...... ).

richardh wrote: dr wu23 wrote: Tom Ozric wrote: cstack3 wrote: Tom Ozric wrote: Get 'em Out By Friday has some incredible bass lines from Rutherford. Easily up there with Squire as far as complexity goes...... Thanks for that!  I always thought that Rutherford was at least the equal to, if not superior to, Squire in that era.   Rutherford is a superior overall musician, being very competent on 6 string and 12 string guitars as well as bass guitar.   He improved in leaps and bounds for album to album, reaching his pinnacle on Selling England. No denying Squire, Rutherford and Lake were incredible talents on bass. Come to think of it, even gruff ol' Lee Jackson plays some wonderfully complex bass.   You know I read that Lake didn't know how to play bass when Fripp first brought him into KC...and that Fripp essentially taught him. Do you know if that's true...? At any rate I never really paid that much attention to Lake's playing until he joined ELP. He did some nice things on those early ELP albums. Fripp was a remarkably brilliant teacher then considering 21st Century Schizoid Man (and how on earth did you not notice the bass playing on that?!) Lake played bass in Crimson as a favour to Fripp (according to Lake). Greg was of course a lead guitarist and a very good one at that but Fripp wanted a lead singer and a bass player. I would suppose that Lake was a very quick learner as regards bass.

I actually like better the live version of Schizoid Man with Wetton and Bruford... I feel they took the bass and drums to another level yet. Just awsome.

dr wu23 wrote: Tom Ozric wrote: cstack3 wrote: Tom Ozric wrote: Get 'em Out By Friday has some incredible bass lines from Rutherford. Easily up there with Squire as far as complexity goes...... Thanks for that!  I always thought that Rutherford was at least the equal to, if not superior to, Squire in that era.   Rutherford is a superior overall musician, being very competent on 6 string and 12 string guitars as well as bass guitar.   He improved in leaps and bounds for album to album, reaching his pinnacle on Selling England. No denying Squire, Rutherford and Lake were incredible talents on bass. Come to think of it, even gruff ol' Lee Jackson plays some wonderfully complex bass.   You know I read that Lake didn't know how to play bass when Fripp first brought him into KC...and that Fripp essentially taught him. Do you know if that's true...? At any rate I never really paid that much attention to Lake's playing until he joined ELP. He did some nice things on those early ELP albums.

dr wu23 wrote: [You know I read that Lake didn't know how to play bass when Fripp first brought him into KC...and that Fripp essentially taught him. Do you know if that's true...? At any rate I never really paid that much attention to Lake's playing until he joined ELP. He did some nice things on those early ELP albums.

richardh wrote: dr wu23 wrote: richardh wrote: ^ I don't know. I think its still possible to like progressive rock and not like one of the main pillars of the genre. Pseudo spiritual lyrics being sung in a ridiculous high pitch is not everyone's cup of tea regardless of how good Steve Howe is. You mean like Rush....? but Rush changed ...for the better

More like took a turn for the... Nothing past Grace Under Pressure really grabs me (except some of Clockwork Angels).

If you compare art, you missed the point, good art is ment to be different.
If you are looking for music that is all the same, check fm radio, wondreful similary and bland.

And If you dont like if, dont listen to it, so many others bands out there to explorer.

dr wu23 wrote: richardh wrote: ^ I don't know. I think its still possible to like progressive rock and not like one of the main pillars of the genre. Pseudo spiritual lyrics being sung in a ridiculous high pitch is not everyone's cup of tea regardless of how good Steve Howe is. You mean like Rush....?

Edited by richardh - June 19 2014 at 00:50

I just can't see any fan of Symphonic Prog wouldn't like TFTO - it's part of the Pentateuch - which obviously is;
1. Nursery Cryme
2. Close to The Edge,
3. Tales from Topographic Oceans
4. Foxtrot
5. Selling England by the Pound

Mirror Image wrote: Rihanna wrote: I listen alot on Progressive Rock, but there is some bands that i can skip. I didn't like Yes at all cause they are too cheesy and too bad songs even on they're older material.  No feelings in their songs. Do you dislike Yes aswell? Complete BS of course. They have written some objectionable material, but no prog fan should be without Close To The Edge or Relayer. 'Nuff said.

I'm with you, Mirror Image. One can't pick two finer Yes albums with which to argue the band's merits. Good show!

Roundabout is a very nice song giving the band's fundamental approach I think. I really like Steve Howe stuff. I don'T see any reason not to like them at all . . .