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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2014 at 20:33
Wonderful, I'm really looking forward for this. I wonder if it will come up better than the new Yes... I guess it depends on which mood of songwriting Jon is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2014 at 00:05
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

 I'm not sure what you mean by like an orchestra conductor. What I understand is that he would do all those symphonic textures with keyboards, much like he does on Dream Theater (or Wakeman himself does with Yes). However, as I said before, I believe with this project he would fit better taking an aproach similar to what he did with Steven Wilson on "Grace for Drowining", kind of more jazzy. And really, I hope he does that, it was really nice (actually, he might try a bit of that with DT themselves, give them a bit of a different sound so they may try and come out with something fresh).

In many bands, it seems that one musician or another takes a lead role in conducting/coordinating the music when all hell breaks loose!  Zappa used to formally conduct his band with a baton.  Many times, I've noticed that the keyboard players in bands seem to be the one to direct changes, keep tempo etc.  

Chick Corea, John Evan, and Joe Zawinul come to mind (I've seen each of them, live).  Keyboardists are often the most technical players in an ensemble setting.  

Jon Anderson posted this to his Facebook page:

East Coast here we come, keeping warm, what a crazy winter
you guys are having...i hope you can come and see my 'solo' show, we will have fun, and it will be a very special time this time around....I'm starting a Band this summer with Jean Luc Ponty, Jordan Rudess, Michael Lewis, Rayford Griffin, and Baron Brown..it will be wild and wonderful and most of all, 'fun'...see you soon, if not sooner...love and 'light'..Jon & Janee

This sounds very promising!  These are all veteran players....I wasn't familiar with Lewis, this is what I found:

“I worked with a friend of mine who used to live in Nashville, guitarist Michael Lewis,” Anderson said. “We’ve written two or three songs together, and he’s friends with Jean-Luc. I suggested we put some violin on one of our tracks, and Michael got Jean-Luc to add some to one of our songs. So now we have this connection, and last year we talked about putting a band together with Jean-Luc, so I got in touch with some guys, some fantastic musicians, and all of a sudden we have a band. We’re just trying to figure out the step. We’ve written about five pieces of music together through the Internet. That’s what the Internet is for — it’s like a modern studio. We should be up and running for a tour next year. I’m excited to do some creative work as a band and see where it takes us.”



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2014 at 21:54
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

I saw Jean-Luc perform with Return to Forever. He looked like he felt out of place. He really did not have a lot of room to play and the three man core of the group - Corea, Clark, & White, seemed to have had their own good ol' boys club going. The music was fantastic but I was disappointed in that there was no new music.

To me, this project has tremendous potential and I suspect we may hear Jean-Luc's softer and more melodic side. That, I would welcome. This may turn out to be similar to Anderson's collaboration with Kitaro on the album 'Dream.' For keys, I would like to hear somebody like Vangelis who could create truly lush orchestrations, but I don't think that likely. That would just about be the ultimate for me - Anderson, Ponty, Vangelis. Throw in Hackett on guitar and it would be ultimate. While I am dreaming, I would also like a pony and world peace.

well that would be an amazing group---too bad Vangelis dislikes Jon and hasn't spoken to him in years---Unhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2014 at 20:53
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I'm not sure what you mean by like an orchestra conductor. What I understand is that he would do all those symphonic textures with keyboards, much like he does on Dream Theater (or Wakeman himself does with Yes). However, as I said before, I believe with this project he would fit better taking an aproach similar to what he did with Steven Wilson on "Grace for Drowining", kind of more jazzy. And really, I hope he does that, it was really nice (actually, he might try a bit of that with DT themselves, give them a bit of a different sound so they may try and come out with something fresh).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 17 2014 at 18:46
I saw Jean-Luc perform with Return to Forever. He looked like he felt out of place. He really did not have a lot of room to play and the three man core of the group - Corea, Clark, & White, seemed to have had their own good ol' boys club going. The music was fantastic but I was disappointed in that there was no new music.

To me, this project has tremendous potential and I suspect we may hear Jean-Luc's softer and more melodic side. That, I would welcome. This may turn out to be similar to Anderson's collaboration with Kitaro on the album 'Dream.' For keys, I would like to hear somebody like Vangelis who could create truly lush orchestrations, but I don't think that likely. That would just about be the ultimate for me - Anderson, Ponty, Vangelis. Throw in Hackett on guitar and it would be ultimate. While I am dreaming, I would also like a pony and world peace.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2014 at 07:37
^ I listened to that Yes album on streaming and liked it, but have really given up on Yes many years ago.

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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I hope this works, but I think that Jean Luc Ponty will be too strong a force for Jon to deal with musically, and it might not go beyond a few songs on a CD.
 
It would be extra nice if something huge came out of this, but there are not too many musicians that Jean Luc will work with, probably due to his caliber, but that's likely my imagination saying this. He might blow Jon right out of town and close shop!
 
I guess that "Return to Forever" don't have anything scheduled for a while?

Yeah that was pretty cool that Jean Luc wound up in Return's return.  I'm really interested in what the new guys are doing these days, but Ponty and Jon Anderson are old faves of mine. Big smile

I've been cycling back in time though my collection and am at the "80's.  Song Of Seven was such a disappointment compared to Olias.  (I think I may be repeating myself here.)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2014 at 00:58
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

 
Why must the members of Yes stop playing and doing what they love most, playing Yes music to the masses? They are entitled to live on and earn what they can. Even the cruise gig sounded great. I cannot understand why some of us expect bands to hang up their boots. I saw Jon Anderson in Aspen 2012 and half the songs he forgot his linesLOL It is still great to see him carry on....anybody remember Diane Sawyer asking Mick Jagger why he still played at 70? His reply was well " Diane, you are my age and still do anchor for TV..." and even she stumbles on some grog from time to time. His response shut her up too. Anyways baffles me....cos our embarrassment may not be apparent to those still doing what they love, even if Chris Squire resembles an ageing chubby Rod Stewart.

Yes are free to continue to play the Akron, Ohio Pig Festival if they wish!  Whatever pays the bills.  

For those of us who have been with the band for a long time (I saw the CTTE show in Chicago, 1972), the limping along of Yes playing substandard music is grating.  I mean, really....Geoff Downes can't even approach Wakeman's parts decently, White has lost his beat, Howe has become a grumpy, scary old man, and Squire is, as you point out, massive.  

I like Jon Davison a lot from his Yes cover days & work with Glass Hammer, so I hope they yet produce some decent new music before they hang it up.  However, the last work, "Fly From Here," really sounded like a band running on empty.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2014 at 00:46
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

If Jordan Rudess were truly involved, I think he would be like the orchestra's conductor.  It could be absolutely brilliant! 

My guess is that a lot of these aging progsters want to go out with a massive, creative bang, rather than limp along from casino to casino as Yes is doing.  How degrading that must be, playing forty-year-old music endlessly.  

I know, we've come close with Jon in the past.  Let's see what happens, if the popular entertainment press has picked up on it, I bet it will be worth listening for!  

Why must the members of Yes stop playing and doing what they love most, playing Yes music to the masses? They are entitled to live on and earn what they can. Even the cruise gig sounded great. I cannot understand why some of us expect bands to hang up their boots. I saw Jon Anderson in Aspen 2012 and half the songs he forgot his linesLOL It is still great to see him carry on....anybody remember Diane Sawyer asking Mick Jagger why he still played at 70? His reply was well " Diane, you are my age and still do anchor for TV..." and even she stumbles on some grog from time to time. His response shut her up too. Anyways baffles me....cos our embarrassment may not be apparent to those still doing what they love, even if Chris Squire resembles an ageing chubby Rod Stewart.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2014 at 23:03
[QUOTE=moshkito]Hi,
 
I hope this works, but I think that Jean Luc Ponty will be too strong a force for Jon to deal with musically, and it might not go beyond a few songs on a CD.
 
It would be extra nice if something huge came out of this, but there are not too many musicians that Jean Luc will work with, probably due to his caliber, but that's likely my imagination saying this. He might blow Jon right out of town and close shop!
 
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yeah I agree---with your analysis---was thinking the same thing.
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If Jordan Rudess were truly involved, I think he would be like the orchestra's conductor.  It could be absolutely brilliant! 

My guess is that a lot of these aging progsters want to go out with a massive, creative bang, rather than limp along from casino to casino as Yes is doing.  How degrading that must be, playing forty-year-old music endlessly.  

I know, we've come close with Jon in the past.  Let's see what happens, if the popular entertainment press has picked up on it, I bet it will be worth listening for!  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2014 at 16:56
I like the whole jazzy line-up--wish Moraz was invited to be part of it---now that would be exciting---I think his work with Wakeman was not very good so I'm glad he is going in an arty-jazzy direction.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2014 at 16:54
Hi,
 
I hope this works, but I think that Jean Luc Ponty will be too strong a force for Jon to deal with musically, and it might not go beyond a few songs on a CD.
 
It would be extra nice if something huge came out of this, but there are not too many musicians that Jean Luc will work with, probably due to his caliber, but that's likely my imagination saying this. He might blow Jon right out of town and close shop!
 
I guess that "Return to Forever" don't have anything scheduled for a while?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2014 at 14:55
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:



Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

It sounds nice. No guitars nor keyboards, I guess that will be interesting.

I think they are just revving up the machine!  Both Jean Luc and Jon have played with the masters of guitar and keyboard, so I'm happy to watch this come together. 
Someone on Facebook has information that Jordan Rudess will be the keyboard player.  That would be fantastic, if true!
The fact that Ponty is involved gives some heft to these rumors.  



I would be a bit dissapointed, since I'd really like Anderson to work with Wakeman again, and it would be cool if he were part of this project too. However Rudess is awsome too. If he is part of the project, I hope he plays something more similar to what he did in Steven Wilson's "Grace for drowning", and stays away from his playing in DT... I feel it would fit better on the project (and also, I can hardly imagine Wakeman playing in that stile).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2014 at 09:10
well I hope it is true---that line-up sounds like a good band ---as long as rabin is not involved it should be interesting and creative music.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 15 2014 at 00:11
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

It sounds nice. No guitars nor keyboards, I guess that will be interesting.

I think they are just revving up the machine!  Both Jean Luc and Jon have played with the masters of guitar and keyboard, so I'm happy to watch this come together. 


Someone on Facebook has information that Jordan Rudess will be the keyboard player.  That would be fantastic, if true!

The fact that Ponty is involved gives some heft to these rumors.  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2014 at 22:26
It sounds nice. No guitars nor keyboards, I guess that will be interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2014 at 20:16
This has been posted to Facebook:

Jon Anderson -- Vocals
Jean Luc Ponty -- Violin
Baron Browne -- Bass
Rayford Griffin -- Drums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2014 at 19:13
This would be exceedingly cool - two of my favorites in one package. I won't hold my breath, though. It may just come after half a dozen detours. Time to get that Moorglade moving again!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 14 2014 at 05:10
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

I very much doubt this will happen, as with most of Jon's plans. We are still awaiting the Rabin and Wakeman thingy.
And the follow up to Olias.

Yes, absolutely.

Oh, ye of little faith!!  LOL

I'm just going by this website http://www.sevendragons.org/zamran/index.htm which said it was forthcoming in 2012.
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