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Atavachron
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Posted: December 10 2013 at 18:28 |
^ Good observation, though they were always a rock band and never veered from that. In fact they started more or less as a rockabilly band; they wanted to sound American. Of course eventually everyone wanted to sound like the Beatles, so you started getting this hodge-podge of American-based British inspired rock 'n roll, and that unholy blend is still happening today-- bands such as Vampire Weekend emulating the Kinks, and so on and so forth. It is an endless and fascinating musical relationship that keeps reinventing itself.
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Posted: December 10 2013 at 10:55 |
I think this may have something to do with the styles on offer on both of these albums. While Vaudevillean pop is highly regarded in many Indie and underground groups alike, the one you encounter on Pepper sounds rather dated today imho. You certainly don't hear anything with that same vibe on the radio. Revolver on the other hand is one of the keystones that the whole current rock revival fad relies on. Seems simple really. Most people are into the rock part of The Beatles nowadays.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 09 2013 at 07:30 |
Perhaps someone is mixing Revolver TNK with Phil Collins' TNK - the Beatles version is insane, PhilCo's just doesn't have the 'majik' (nice of him to select the song to cover, though).
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 19:09 |
Dean wrote:
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^ Wow, easy; it's not like I wanted to light up a tree in a forest. |
Really? So you thought you could make a comment and there be no come-backs?
Dayvenkirq wrote:
I guess "Well, regardless, this song is just not for me in any way whatsoever, though I do recognize its merit" is something I should have said in the beginning so that this conversation wouldn't take this hot course. |
This conversation is not taking a hot course. I am replying to your comments in a calm controlled manner. I found the phrase "Well, regardless" to be flippant and unnecessarily dismissive.
Either you now understand the "buzz" about TNK or you do not. Whether you like the song or not is immaterial. |
OK, help me out here: what kind of a comeback is "I don't give a flying fart" ? How is that a sign of calm or controlled behavior? And I've no idea what's so flippant or unnecessarily dismissive about "regardless", when I've only used it to wrap things up fast and drive a point home.
Maybe I should rephrase it: I don't dig the song (which is just my taste), but thanks to Tim I got a little idea of what it's all about. Better?
Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 08 2013 at 20:38
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Atavachron
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 19:05 |
Oh, and a fat joint doesn't hurt either.
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 19:03 |
I was born the same year the song was recorded so I don't whether I was 'around for the song' or not (it certainly wasn't a song played on the airwaves much). I would say it was when I became a musician that I began to appreciate it.
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Dean
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 18:28 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Wow, easy; it's not like I wanted to light up a tree in a forest. |
Really? So you thought you could make a comment and there be no come-backs?
Dayvenkirq wrote:
I guess "Well, regardless, this song is just not for me in any way whatsoever, though I do recognize its merit" is something I should have said in the beginning so that this conversation wouldn't take this hot course. |
This conversation is not taking a hot course. I am replying to your comments in a calm controlled manner. I found the phrase "Well, regardless" to be flippant and unnecessarily dismissive. Either you now understand the "buzz" about TNK or you do not. Whether you like the song or not is immaterial.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 17:44 |
^ Wow, easy; it's not like I wanted to light up a tree in a forest.
I guess "Well, regardless, this song is just not for me in any way whatsoever, though I do recognize its merit" is something I should have said in the beginning so that this conversation wouldn't take this hot course.
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 17:38 |
I couldn't give a flying fart whether the song is for you or not, that wasn't what you were talking about, you said:
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I've never understood the buzz about "Tomorrow Never Knows", nor ever will ... even after watching the PH video Dean posted. |
So no, it is not "regardless", it is not "irrespective of, without regard to, without reference to, disregarding, unmindful of, heedless of, careless of/about, indifferent to, unconcerned about, without consideration of, negligent of, setting aside, discounting, ignoring, notwithstanding, no matter, despite, in spite of, for all; informalirregardless of...", it was not only germane to the comment you made, it addressed it directly.
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dr wu23
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 17:15 |
timothy leary wrote:
Tomorrow Never Knows..........a Timothy Leary inspired song |
Uh.....I thought that was that Moody Blues song.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 17:10 |
Dean wrote:
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^ I don't disagree. I guess this is really a part of the generational gap.
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No. It's nothing to do with the generation gap. |
Well, regardless, this song is just not for me in any way whatsoever, though I do recognize its merit.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 15:36 |
Atavachron wrote:
^^ the Beatles knew not to beat something to death
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'Hey Jude' ????
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 14:20 |
Are we talking TNK? I wasn't "there", but I can well imagine how it blew people's minds. It blows my mind!
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timothy leary
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 13:53 |
Tomorrow Never Knows..........a Timothy Leary inspired song
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Dean
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 13:46 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ I don't disagree. I guess this is really a part of the generational gap.
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No. It's nothing to do with the generation gap.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 13:03 |
^ I don't disagree. I guess this is really a part of the generational gap.
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Dean
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 12:36 |
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I've never understood the buzz about "Tomorrow Never Knows", nor ever will ... even after watching the PH video Dean posted. I think the song's just a mess. (I don't expect you to relate.) |
Unless you were alive in the 1960s and of an age where you could appreciate music I don't think it is possible to fully comprehend what Tim is saying about having experienced it in real time, this does not mean that people younger than that cannot understand or like the song, it has nothing to do with taste, but in grasping the cultural significance of the song in context, in its own time-frame. Hammill was not exaggerating when he said that once it has been heard everything changes, you cannot go backwards - he did not mean that once someone in the 21st Century heard it, he means that once people in 1966 heard it and the whole cascade of consequence that ripples out from that - it altered the whole of music forever.
There is no comparable modern event in music that you can draw a parallel to. Not one.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 12:11 |
^ Once they create a taste-enhancing drug, ... maybe then it really doesn't.
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 12:10 |
Well you said you will never understand..........how about............Tomorrow Never Knows
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: December 08 2013 at 12:07 |
^ Nah, I know there are a few people who were born in, like, 70's and dig the song.
Edited by Dayvenkirq - December 08 2013 at 12:12
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