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Posted: October 20 2013 at 14:36
Where The Beatles carefully calculated their compositions on 'Sgt. Pepper's', The Stones took an 'everything including the kitchen sink' approach to theirs. It's just such a crazy album.
Moving on, I thought the song 'Harlem Shuffle' was pretty decent.
.......I could never stand that Jagger/Iggy Pop(?) song 'Walk And Don't Look Back' or whatever it's called..... and 'Dancing In The Streets'......
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Posted: October 20 2013 at 08:11
Tom Ozric wrote:
Satanic Majesties Request Every second of the album is pure colour to these ears. Even that sinister end bit after 'Sing This All Together (See What Happens) - wtf were they doing there ?? The mellotron work is fantastic, and some of those whacky ideas (In Another Land vocals, for example) sure hit the spot. I prefer this album to Sgt. Pepper's.....
I love the sounds on Their Satanic Majesties Request also. The only psychedelic album I actually prefer it to is Magical Mystery Tour.I think Mic said it was only listening to Sgt. Pepper that made him think psychedelic music was the way to go. I always thought people were way too harsh on The Rolling Stones calling them bandwagon jumpers.
The Rolling Stones are one of my favorite rock bands but it's only the music of their 1960's and 70's period that interest me. Most of their music from the last twenty five years is just OK to me.
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Posted: October 20 2013 at 00:15
Cool - I'll be checking this out, thanks . RC guested on Hammill's 'Silent Corner, Empty Stage' album - the song 'Red Shift'. I recall seeing Spirit LP's at fairs but never looked into them, cheers for the link
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Posted: October 19 2013 at 23:04
Tom Ozric wrote:
^ I know nothing of 'Spirit' - is that the band with Randy California ??
Yes, California and Jay ferguson et al......these guys were friggin awesome imho.. one of the best West Coast rockers with some really interesting style combinations.
12 Dreams is considered their masterpiece but I love all of their lp's.
Have one of your favorite drinks..sit back and play the whole thing. It's kind of a thematic or concept lp but the songs still stand alone well enough.
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Posted: October 19 2013 at 11:42
Tom Ozric wrote:
Been through the Stones phase, from Aftermath through to Steel Wheels and only hung onto a precious few LP's in my collection. There's decent tracks to be found on all these albums, albeit in varying amounts and quality. I've been indulging in 'Sticky Fingers' a lot lately (I was lucky enough to have been given a lightly scuffed German pressing with a real, working zipper on the cover)- which features a longish tune 'Can't You Here Me Knocking' (7:17) - the first 2+ minutes has the vocals but the last 5 mins is a great jam which reminds me of something by the Prog band 'Tonton Macoute' (I think track 2 - 'Don't Make Me Cry). The Stones definitely had their moments.
Sticky Fingers is a very good rock lp......
I used to have a zipper cover but it got trashed in the old days so I bought another plain one a while later.
I wish they had written a title track ....would love to hear Jagger's lyrics to that.
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Posted: October 19 2013 at 11:38
zravkapt wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
.....but I think Goat's Head and It's Only Rock n Roll are solid lp's. After that I don't own any Stones.
Some Girls is worth owning too, some good stuff on there. After that...meh. Of course, one of their biggest songs is "Start Me Up" from 1981, but it even began as a reggae song during the Goat's Head Soup sessions.
I misspoke ..I have Some Girls....don't play it anymore. I got sick and tired of hearing Start Me Up on every damn radio station.
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Posted: October 19 2013 at 01:01
Been through the Stones phase, from Aftermath through to Steel Wheels and only hung onto a precious few LP's of theirs in my collection. There's decent tracks to be found on all these albums, albeit in varying amounts and quality. I've been indulging in 'Sticky Fingers' a lot lately (I was lucky enough to have been given a lightly scuffed German pressing with a real, working zipper on the cover)- which features a longish tune 'Can't You Here Me Knocking' (7:17) - the first 2+ minutes has the vocals but the last 5 mins is a great jam which reminds me of something by the Prog band 'Tonton Macoute' (I think track 2 - 'Don't Make Me Cry). The Stones definitely had their moments.
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 23:49
dr wu23 wrote:
.....but I think Goat's Head and It's Only Rock n Roll are solid lp's. After that I don't own any Stones.
Some Girls is worth owning too, some good stuff on there. After that...meh. Of course, one of their biggest songs is "Start Me Up" from 1981, but it even began as a reggae song during the Goat's Head Soup sessions.
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 17:35
Satanic Majesties Request Every second of the album is pure colour to these ears. Even that sinister end bit after 'Sing This All Together (See What Happens) - wtf were they doing there ?? The mellotron work is fantastic, and some of those whacky ideas (In Another Land vocals, for example) sure hit the spot. I prefer this album to Sgt. Pepper's.....
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 15:49
Prog Sothoth wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Another great song released at that time is the B-side to "We Love You"..."Dandelion"
Yeah, I dig "Dandelion" a lot. Funny how it's pure catchy trippy-pop yet played in that loose bordeline sloppy Stones manner, giving the tune an almost sinister undercurrent. Then again, even when trying to sound sincere, Mick always had a bit of 'sneer' to his voice.
They were no slouches when it came to B-sides. Was "Let's Spend The Night Together" or "Ruby Tuesday" the initial B-side...or was it a planned double A-side maybe? And as I mentioned earlier, I think "Child Of The Moon" was a great B-side to "Jumpin' Jack Flash".
dr wu23 wrote:
I've read that We Love You was the Stones commenting on their early drug bust/and the attending hoopla and I think Lennon is even on that track somewhere.
Yeah, and I think he's also in TSMR's "Sing This All Together", one of those tunes that probably was a lot more fun to make than listen to after the drugs wore off, it's ok I guess (better than "Gomper").
I think that's right ....and Gomper and Sing are the 2 weakest tracks on there.
btw...I actually have an original vinyl with the holographic cover image....vinyl's not in great shape though.
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 15:42
Padraic wrote:
Their appeal died with Brian Jones. Sticky Fingers was great, I think Exiles is a complete snooze-fest. I don't mind some of their faux-punk attempts like Shattered, but I just don't care about really anything they did after the early 70s.
I know how you feel.....but I think Goat's Head and It's Only Rock n Roll are solid lp's. After that I don't own any Stones.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 13:36
The.Crimson.King wrote:
Another great song released at that time is the B-side to "We Love You"..."Dandelion"
Yeah, I dig "Dandelion" a lot. Funny how it's pure catchy trippy-pop yet played in that loose bordeline sloppy Stones manner, giving the tune an almost sinister undercurrent. Then again, even when trying to sound sincere, Mick always had a bit of 'sneer' to his voice.
They were no slouches when it came to B-sides. Was "Let's Spend The Night Together" or "Ruby Tuesday" the initial B-side...or was it a planned double A-side maybe? And as I mentioned earlier, I think "Child Of The Moon" was a great B-side to "Jumpin' Jack Flash".
dr wu23 wrote:
I've read that We Love You was the Stones commenting on their early drug bust/and the attending hoopla and I think Lennon is even on that track somewhere.
Yeah, and I think he's also in TSMR's "Sing This All Together", one of those tunes that probably was a lot more fun to make than listen to after the drugs wore off, it's ok I guess (better than "Gomper").
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 12:53
Their appeal died with Brian Jones. Sticky Fingers was great, I think Exiles is a complete snooze-fest. I don't mind some of their faux-punk attempts like Shattered, but I just don't care about really anything they did after the early 70s.
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 12:51
Prog Sothoth wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
To me Exiles is basically a reworking of the blues rock on those 2 lp's. It has those 'twangy blues/soul' songs
with some classic rockers. Almost the same format as the 2 earlier lp's.
I can live with that.
Since this thread popped up, I've been revisiting some of the old Stones records, particularly the interesting era of Between The Buttons and Their Satanic Majesties Request., with the weird single "We Love You" inbetween.
The former album is really odd for the band, very brit-pop stuff...a real mixed bag but "She Smiled Sweetly" is quite the pretty number. Prefer the US version of the album. "Let's Spend The Night Together" is euphoric and "Ruby Tuesday" is great too, although a little sloppier than I remembered, but the UK version has "Back Street Girl" which is nice as well if not at the same level. "Communication" was another decent number.
Their Satanic Majesties Request is even odder. Some of these tunes like "The Lantern" could have been pretty good slow-burn bluesy folk-rock tunes if the terrible production and deliberate 'weirdness' thrown in were omitted. "She's A Rainbow" is awesome though...a perfect mix of the brit-pop they were aiming for on the last album with the psychodelic stuff of this album. "2000 Light Years From Home" is the most pure 'Stonesy' sounding song they had done IMO since Aftermath, even with all the trippiness. There's a mean and creepy groove underneath all that. "Citadel" is also killer acid rock. Everything else on it is either just passable to terrible experimentation.
Then they sort of found themselves after that, with "Child Of The Moon" being their last psychedelic-like number.
I always liked Between The Buttons....and to me Satanic Majesties was the Stones 'darker' version/answer to Sgt Pepper.
I've read that We Love You was the Stones commenting on their early drug bust/and the attending hoopla and I think Lennon is even on that track somewhere.
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 12:43
Prog Sothoth wrote:
Since this thread popped up, I've been revisiting some of the old Stones records, particularly the interesting era of Between The Buttons and Their Satanic Majesties Request., with the weird single "We Love You" inbetween.
The former album is really odd for the band, very brit-pop stuff...a real mixed bag but "She Smiled Sweetly" is quite the pretty number. Prefer the US version of the album. "Let's Spend The Night Together" is euphoric and "Ruby Tuesday" is great too, although a little sloppier than I remembered, but the UK version has "Back Street Girl" which is nice as well if not at the same level. "Communication" was another decent number.
Their Satanic Majesties Request is even odder. Some of these tunes like "The Lantern" could have been pretty good slow-burn bluesy folk-rock tunes if the terrible production and deliberate 'weirdness' thrown in were omitted. "She's A Rainbow" is awesome though...a perfect mix of the brit-pop they were aiming for on the last album with the psychodelic stuff of this album. "2000 Light Years From Home" is the most pure 'Stonesy' sounding song they had done IMO since Aftermath, even with all the trippiness. There's a mean and creepy groove underneath all that. "Citadel" is also killer acid rock. Everything else on it is either just passable to terrible experimentation.
Then they sort of found themselves after that, with "Child Of The Moon" being their last psychedelic-like number.
I really love both these albums...I've read that Satanic was Mick's idea to jump on the Sgt Pepper bandwagon 'cause he thought they'd miss the boat. Keith and Brian both absolutely hated it and were incredibly happy when the band got back to their nasty blues-rock roots with Beggars Banquet. Another great song released at that time is the B-side to "We Love You"..."Dandelion"
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Posted: October 18 2013 at 12:31
dr wu23 wrote:
To me Exiles is basically a reworking of the blues rock on those 2 lp's. It has those 'twangy blues/soul' songs
with some classic rockers. Almost the same format as the 2 earlier lp's.
I can live with that.
Since this thread popped up, I've been revisiting some of the old Stones records, particularly the interesting era of Between The Buttons and Their Satanic Majesties Request., with the weird single "We Love You" inbetween.
The former album is really odd for the band, very brit-pop stuff...a real mixed bag but "She Smiled Sweetly" is quite the pretty number. Prefer the US version of the album. "Let's Spend The Night Together" is euphoric and "Ruby Tuesday" is great too, although a little sloppier than I remembered, but the UK version has "Back Street Girl" which is nice as well if not at the same level. "Communication" was another decent number.
Their Satanic Majesties Request is even odder. Some of these tunes like "The Lantern" could have been pretty good slow-burn bluesy folk-rock tunes if the terrible production and deliberate 'weirdness' thrown in were omitted. "She's A Rainbow" is awesome though...a perfect mix of the brit-pop they were aiming for on the last album with the psychodelic stuff of this album. "2000 Light Years From Home" is the most pure 'Stonesy' sounding song they had done IMO since Aftermath, even with all the trippiness. There's a mean and creepy groove underneath all that. "Citadel" is also killer acid rock. Everything else on it is either just passable to terrible experimentation.
Then they sort of found themselves after that, with "Child Of The Moon" being their last psychedelic-like number.
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Posted: October 17 2013 at 15:58
Prog Sothoth wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Beggars and Let It Bleed are 2 of the best things they ever did and should be in every serious rock collection .
Yeah, but even they aren't perfect to me. Beggars has maybe one or two twangy folk tunes too many...another rocker instead of "Dear Doctor" would have made it perfect, and As For Let It Bleed, I can't listen to "country Honk" without wanting to hear the superior "Honky Tonk Woman". Other than that, yeah, great stuff, borderline nasty in a good way at times.
I agree that Beggars could have used one more rocker and one less 'twangy blues' song.
And I always wondered why they put Country Honk and not the other version on LIB...perhaps it wasn't reworked at that time.
To me Exiles is basically a reworking of the blues rock on those 2 lp's. It has those 'twangy blues/soul' songs
with some classic rockers. Almost the same format as the 2 earlier lp's.
One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin
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Tom Ozric wrote:
Every second of the album is pure colour to these ears. Even that sinister end bit after 'Sing This All Together (See What Happens) - wtf were they doing there ?? The mellotron work is fantastic, and some of those whacky ideas (In Another Land vocals, for example) sure hit the spot. I prefer this album to Sgt. Pepper's.....
