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Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 26 2013 at 01:56
I just think Fripps level of ambition (artisticly) would often create tensions in his band(s).
But who cares, the fact that he is kinda nuts, was the reason he was able to provide some of the best albums ever.
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Points: 4596 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2013 at 14:03
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

I guess starving and having Bob Fripp as your boss can cloud your judgment sometimes.  I sometimes forget that all these famous groundbreaking musicians/bands were basically just kids.  Young men don't always choose their words carefully or subject their opinions to reason rather than emotion.

edit: hold that thought.  Boz's comments came much later, didn't they?  Never mind.  Maybe my comments don't apply here.

Ya, Boz appeared to be in his 50's when the interview used in the Bad Company doc happened...
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Points: 16952 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2013 at 13:59
Boz is bst KC singer 
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Points: 26138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2013 at 13:52
I guess starving and having Bob Fripp as your boss can cloud your judgment sometimes.  I sometimes forget that all these famous groundbreaking musicians/bands were basically just kids.  Young men don't always choose their words carefully or subject their opinions to reason rather than emotion.

edit: hold that thought.  Boz's comments came much later, didn't they?  Never mind.  Maybe my comments don't apply here.


Edited by HolyMoly - July 25 2013 at 13:53
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Points: 4596 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2013 at 13:43
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

I'd never presume to guess what really happened, but it's interesting to hear different sides of the story and try to imagine what might have happened.

Ironic that he took issue with the lyrics of Pete Sinfield, then went on to play (though tellingly, not sing) in a band who had some of the most hilariously heavy-handed lyrics I've ever come across.

You're right, nobody really knows what happened but those 5 guys, but it sure is fun trying to fill in the blanks Wink

Based on his comment, I was also surprised Boz would have had anything to do with Sinfield's solo album...maybe he just did it to spite RF who was about the only Crimson related musician not invited to play on the album.

RF's journal quoted a Melody Maker article 4/24/71, "In fact, Fripp taught Boz to play bass from scratch, starting two months ago because they couldn't find a suitable bassist".  Based on this fact, I found Boz' remarks in the documentary especially disappointing.  If it wasn't for the situation in King Crimson that lead to RF teaching him to play bass, the Bad Company gig would never have been his and all the fame & fortune it gave him would have gone to someone else.  I would think he would have had nicer things to say about Crimso Confused 
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Points: 26138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2013 at 12:34
I'd never presume to guess what really happened, but it's interesting to hear different sides of the story and try to imagine what might have happened.

Ironic that he took issue with the lyrics of Pete Sinfield, then went on to play (though tellingly, not sing) in a band who had some of the most hilariously heavy-handed lyrics I've ever come across.
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Points: 17539 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2013 at 11:21
Interesting. Boz obviously wanted to play rock with an earthier side. He no doubt would have liked the aggression of Red.

He certainly did go on to make a mountain of cash with Bad Company!
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Points: 4596 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2013 at 11:02
I just saw a "Behind the Music Remastered" episode about Bad Company.  I watched it to see what they had to say about Boz and Crimso.  When they got to the part of the story where Boz joined Bad Company, they ran a quick interview with him.  He said he quit Crimso because he was fed up with the silly lyrics he was asked to sing and said they were "gob-sh*te" LOL

An interesting thing about his statement that he quit Crimso...history tells a different story.  The chronology I've read goes like this:

1) After the release of Islands, an unknown band member described the quiet parts of the album as "airy-fairy sh%$"...perhaps Boz?
2) After the '71 Islands tour, Fripp fired Sinfield claiming musical differences and a loss of faith in Sinfield's ideas.  
3) The band broke up acrimoniously during subsequent rehearsals. 
4) The band agreed to patch up their differences for one more tour - with the promise they would disband after.
5) During the '72 tour everyone had a change of heart and told Fripp they wanted to stay together after all.
6) After the tour, Fripp sacked the whole lot of them anyway.
7) Boz appeared on Pete Sinfield's solo album "Still".
8) Boz joined Bad Company and made some money playing music for a change!

It appears to me as the common situation where your boss fires you, and in a flash of anger you shout, "you can't fire me, I quit" Angry

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Edited by The.Crimson.King - July 25 2013 at 11:03
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