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richardh
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Posted: February 26 2013 at 14:07 |
Probably been mentioned already but Wilson is using the same Mellotron that King Crimson used on ITCOTKC. There is nice little bit of footage on the DVD of him playing it.
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infandous
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Posted: February 26 2013 at 10:23 |
Finnforest wrote:
Looking forward to it.
Looking forward to seeing how I feel about these solo-band guys compared to PT. I really love the PT band individually for the strengths they bring without ever getting pompous musically....I don't like to sit there and get hung up on "whoa these guys are technically brilliant players".......instead I like to be blown away by what they bring out of the track.....and I think the PT band members bring out SW perfectly. Just like the Floyd members brought out Waters....whose stuff may not have worked nearly as well with other people....and thinking about his solo albums, they didn't.
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Jim, my impression from the live DVD is that they are all "team players". They are ensemble players, and not "flash" players. There are some extended solos, but they are all tasteful........no "w**king" in Wilson's solo band. Keep in mind that there is a different guitarist on the DVD than is on the new album.
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fusaka
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Posted: February 26 2013 at 09:26 |
Great album, very diverse yet cohesive. Playing is top notch. Watchmaker starts very Genesis-like and ends in a very modern fashion.
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Roj
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Posted: February 26 2013 at 07:52 |
I pre-ordered from Burning Shed and it turned up a bit early
and it is excellent. It's much more prog in the classic sense than
his first two. However, as like GFD there are quite a
few KC references it should appeal to the avant crowd
as well as mainstream proggies. The musicianship is officially awesome. Who would've thought
the bassist from 80s UK pop band Kajagoogoo would end up an eminent prog
musician? The
mellotron on this album is incredible (played by SW himself and not the
brilliant keyboard player in his band) and I find in the notes they
used the exact same mellotron that was used recording KC's ITCOTKC. SW actually plays some mean guitar solos on this disc too. Watch
this album stroll to number one prog cd of 2013. I doubt it'll he
bettered this year thats for sure. If I hear a better song than Drive
Home this year I'll be surprised. This, Luminol and the title track are my favourites.
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King of Loss
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 13:15 |
I think Insurgentes is his best solo work. This one is ok I guess, but sounds too unoriginal.
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 12:55 |
Looking forward to it. Looking forward to seeing how I feel about these solo-band guys compared to PT. I really love the PT band individually for the strengths they bring without ever getting pompous musically....I don't like to sit there and get hung up on " whoa these guys are technically brilliant players".......instead I like to be blown away by what they bring out of the track.....and I think the PT band members bring out SW perfectly. Just like the Floyd members brought out Waters....whose stuff may not have worked nearly as well with other people....and thinking about his solo albums, they didn't.
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 12:41 |
You know, Jim, `Grace' suprised me in that, for all of Wilson's jumping up and down about not being derivative and lazily retro `proggy', `Grace' sure had massive sections to very 70's inspired Crimson like prog lol! I loved it though! :)
Oh, I'm still trying to pick up my jaw from watching that Wilson solo DVD.....I lost count of how many times I'd be watching and suddenly go `Fuuuuuuuuuuu*******kkk!!!!' over and over being blown away by it lol!
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 12:30 |
Grace, bottom line I didn't buy the "proggy", intense sections at all...thought they felt totally contrived, proggy for the sake of it, whereas I think he is brilliant and a natural for crafting melodic pop with crossover or metal overtones. But I'm sort on an outlier Wilson fan I suspect....I'd much rather hear FoaBP or Incident than Sky Move Sideways or most of his earlier, "cool" stuff. Just bought the concert DVD too! Excited, but I doubt it will slay me like Anesthetize or Octane. But I'll give it and Raven a fair shot, I promise you that
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Aussie-Byrd-Brother
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 12:08 |
Finnforest wrote:
Just ordered the 2-disc edition. I didn't really like Grace but am giving this a shot anyway. |
Jim, why no love for `Grace'?!
I felt it was the best thing he'd done since `Signify' and the indie-pop/prog days of `Stupid Dream/Lightbulb Sun/Recordings' etc :)
Have you seen the last Wilson solo live DVD? A knockout!
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 11:59 |
Just ordered the 2-disc edition. I didn't really like Grace but am giving this a shot anyway.
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 11:40 |
The Incident was kinda meh.
This is his best album ever PT or not though IMO.
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Floydian42
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 09:56 |
Horizons wrote:
moshkito wrote:
Horizons wrote:
The only recent thing that was "sh*te" would be The Incident.
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Nahhh ... it was fine ... but would have made an outstanding single CD, instead of two! |
It's not really the excessive songs that make it bad, it's that all of the songs are boring. |
I can kind of see where you're coming from, although I'd disagree. From a musical standpoint it's just as interesting (or uninteresting) as the last few PT records, if not heightened a little bit by the use of motif's and the steady pace of the song-cycle approach. It's certainly not their best record, but as I've said before, if it's going to be the last Porcupine Tree record, I'm fine with that. It seems to summarize everything the band had been working on up until that point. It had a representation of all the genre's, the metal, pop, and psychedelic, and had a solid concept that was slightly surreal and about mortality and whatnot as we've seen PT do many times before and it's all contained within one listening experience.
I like the more personal moments on the record, particularly "Kneel and Disconnect." Once that harmony part comes in it's great. It didn't really push anything new for PT, but it didn't really need to I don't think. For anyone who's interested in listening to PT, it might be a good record to give them as a little teaser I guess of all the things they can expect to hear on other PT records.
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tomdavenport
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Posted: February 25 2013 at 09:37 |
(Hello, this is my first post!)
I interviewed Steven a couple of weeks ago and he was great. Very interesting man.
He said he hopes to start scoring films once the current album cycle has finished up, which will be interesting if it pans out.
Interview here: http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/interviews/steven_wilson_my_biggest_ambition_is_to_score_a_movie.html
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Horizons
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Posted: February 24 2013 at 17:44 |
moshkito wrote:
Horizons wrote:
The only recent thing that was "sh*te" would be The Incident.
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Nahhh ... it was fine ... but would have made an outstanding single CD, instead of two! |
It's not really the excessive songs that make it bad, it's that all of the songs are boring.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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moshkito
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Posted: February 24 2013 at 15:39 |
Horizons wrote:
The only recent thing that was "sh*te" would be The Incident.
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Nahhh ... it was fine ... but would have made an outstanding single CD, instead of two!
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elbownut
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Posted: February 22 2013 at 10:56 |
Arrived from Burning Shed yesterday.
Managed two spins last night.
Really impressed.
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"Music was my first love and it will be my last" - John Miles "Music"
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Gallifrey
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Posted: February 18 2013 at 20:53 |
Evolver wrote:
A chain here in Massachusetts, Newbury Comics, is offering Autographed CDs if you pre-order.
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This is cheaper than the burning shed store for shipping to NZ...
Looks like I'm getting another one. I'll sell my other to a friend.
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http://thedarkthird.bandcamp.com/
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Horizons
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Posted: February 18 2013 at 17:38 |
Evolver wrote:
A chain here in Massachusetts, Newbury Comics, is offering Autographed CDs if you pre-order.
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wow thanks for the link
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Catcher10
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Posted: February 18 2013 at 17:23 |
Brilliant album by a brilliant producer and artist....His attention to sound quality needs to become a disease
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Evolver
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Posted: February 18 2013 at 13:57 |
A chain here in Massachusetts, Newbury Comics, is offering Autographed CDs if you pre-order.
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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