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AEProgman
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Posted: July 20 2013 at 20:17 | |
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5154 |
Posted: July 20 2013 at 11:31 | |
Didn't the Dutch law change a couple of years ago so that coffee shops now can not sell weed to not-Dutch customers? (although I heard that they rarely respect that law). It's a couple of years that I have not been to Holland, even with it being so close to my place. I've been there many times during my life though and I regularly work close with Dutch people, and never had any perception that the Dutch society is any worse than most other European ones or that they are any more prone to consuming drugs, in my book Holland is a clean proof that with the correct education and mentality there is no big risk that by legalising weed the society will fall prey to drugs abuse. The experimental community of Christiania in Copenhagen is also an interesting study case, although when I was there (around 2001) the feeling I got was not that good, it was very peaceful and everybody was very kind but it felt a bit decadent, like it has become just another business (a tourist attraction) and drifted away from its original ideals. Finally in agreement with Kati, I believe that alcohol is the most dangerous of the soft drugs, most people can handle it with the required moderation but for those who fall a bit too deep, it can be really nasty. Next are normal cigarettes, the amazing power of tobacco being that it's extremely addictive without actually providing any 'drug-like effect', you don't feel high, you don't feel better, yu don't feel happier... yes it can feel 'pleasant' but for the most part it's just addiction for the sake of it (and I'm one of its prey ).
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: July 20 2013 at 10:49 | |
There are lots of other things I don't know in this world, one of which is whether or not Mel Gibson is a gay scientologist. Edited by Dayvenkirq - July 20 2013 at 11:03 |
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: July 20 2013 at 03:16 | |
Cooee!!! this forum is not about crack, it's about weed, interesting too and most prog. Besides the proven health benefits it should be legal. I lived in Holland for 8 years, do not smoke pot because it has the adverse effect on me compared to others, however I think it's less harmless compared to even alcohol, plus people do not get in touch with crack dealers if they can obtain skunk legally, thus less temptation = crime.
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pfloyd
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Posted: July 17 2013 at 19:21 | |
well this is awkward. *slowly leaves room*
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Dean
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Posted: July 17 2013 at 18:58 | |
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What?
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smartpatrol
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 15 2012 Location: My Bedroom Status: Offline Points: 14169 |
Posted: July 17 2013 at 18:16 | |
crack is wack, yo
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Dayvenkirq
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
Posted: July 17 2013 at 18:07 | |
^ OK. I'm sorry. Then why do we have this thread?
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: July 17 2013 at 18:05 | |
Try this:
5. No Illegal activities. Posts and threads promoting or facilitating file swapping, drug abuse, or any other forum of illegal activity are not permitted. Any such posts will be deleted, and the member warned. (Site Rules and Guidelines) If you think smoking crack is a suitable discussion topic then perhaps you should think a little harder before posting anything related to drugs. (And since you saw nothing wrong is suggesting sleeping pills to a teenager then perhaps you should avoid posting anything concerning drugs all together, even antacid tablets), and you can consider that to be your warning as outlined in the Site Rules and Guidelines. And you can cut-out the "whatever" flippancy.
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What?
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Dayvenkirq
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 25 2011 Location: Los Angeles, CA Status: Offline Points: 10970 |
Posted: July 17 2013 at 17:56 | |
Not sure what boundaries I've crossed with the post I've just deleted but ... there, it's deleted. Whatever.
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20240 |
Posted: December 29 2012 at 02:22 | |
I'm not sure it's that good of a thing... I'd rather talk of depenelasiation of some drugs in some cases (small quantities) I do live in the Netherlands during the week, and coffee shops are legal, The actual distribution of these CS is handled legally by the Hell's Angels (it's a way to include them in society). But as you can probably guess, the fifth thing they did was to distribute start illegal/hard drugs under vthe cover of that legal distribution... And to be honest, if it's nice to have CS dealind with marijuana (and "magic mushrooms" shops are also legal), and the coolest thing to do is sit on an Amsterdam terrace rolling a doobie and sparking it up, while sipping on a Belgian Trappist brew, while chewing the fat with the police agents (OK, they won't sit down at your table, they're on duty), I don't think most other country's population is ready to handle such freedom (and that includes Belgium, US, UK or Canada), because there isn't that rational and civilian responsability that the Dutch have... It's little wonder that border towns to Belgium and Germany have severely closed or restricted the coffee-shops in their territories, because the foreigners simply don't act cool enough... they just can't handle this freedom kindly offered by the Dutch society. |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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Horizons
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Posted: December 28 2012 at 21:57 | |
Likewise. I'm one of those people who really doesn't care if people do it, i just stay away really. |
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: December 28 2012 at 21:13 | |
Haha! Sean I am glad you tried the Dutch stuff, it is powerful, others become happy while it made me numb and dumb By nature, I am quite happy plus hyper active, thus this doesn't work for me. Infact I am glad that when I was a child doctors didn't prescribe Ritalin so eagerly to children. I came out normal I promise |
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The Truth
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Posted: December 28 2012 at 20:34 | |
Never had it, never will.
I am however for legalization of all drugs. |
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Sean Trane
Special Collaborator Prog Folk Joined: April 29 2004 Location: Heart of Europe Status: Offline Points: 20240 |
Posted: December 27 2012 at 14:06 | |
The fact that you smoked it in Holland might explain why you fell asmeep.... the local weeds back then, called Skunk were fairly strong, but very smooth... I felt quite sleepy doing those weeds as well... When i moved in the NL, I was a tad worried my weed consumption would dramatically increase, but most of the local weeds still put me to sleep... and the odd one give me cold sweats... Sooo I kind of quit... I only smoke what the buddies grow and sell to me... though I only smoked twice tor thrice his past year |
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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awaken77
Forum Senior Member Joined: December 25 2008 Status: Offline Points: 374 |
Posted: December 27 2012 at 06:34 | |
I like it , but don't have a source, so it happens rarely
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Sumdeus
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Posted: December 26 2012 at 15:05 | |
It would just be funny if society started treating alcohol like other drugs suddenly and the people who drink all the time would have to start realizing they have a drug habit whether they want to call it that or not. It bugs me how many people i met who try to tell me they don't see alcohol as a 'real drug', so silly.
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Blacksword
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Posted: December 25 2012 at 15:55 | |
I'm wondering what the result would be if people were randomly tested for alcohol first thing in the morning at work, on a Monday.
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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docall27
Forum Newbie Joined: December 22 2012 Location: Lake Geneva, WI Status: Offline Points: 35 |
Posted: December 22 2012 at 16:55 | |
I used to be a modest user of weed and I consider it a softer drug than alcohol. Real problem is the legality of it and random drug tests at work.
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Kati
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 10 2010 Location: Earth Status: Offline Points: 6253 |
Posted: December 22 2012 at 16:35 | |
that has the adverse effect on me it seems, I pass out fall asleep, bah! I lived 8 years in Holland tried many times, not good to me. I don't mind the smell, infact it smells nice to me but no I have not touched it for over 10 years
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