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 Posted: July 18 2005 at 18:03 |
 bogdan. wrote:
HC is Hardcore. |
If you mean HardCore porn I agree with you.
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 17:43 |
No problem ... try some Extol as well. I'll check out the bands that you post, and then we have a common basis to argue about. 
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:48 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
You seem to know more about Hardcore than me ... why don't you
answer my questions for a change and tell me if you would call
Dillinger a Hardcore band? Or give me a list of other Hardocre bands to
check out ... Hardcore is not a genre that I can google for. I need
help.
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I can't download Dillinger now, but when I will, I'll tell you. I will make a list of some HC band and I'll post to you.  Just be my friend. 
Pizda.
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:43 |
You seem to know more about Hardcore than me ... why don't you answer my questions for a change and tell me if you would call Dillinger a Hardcore band? Or give me a list of other Hardocre bands to check out ... Hardcore is not a genre that I can google for. I need help.
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:42 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
bogdan. wrote:
spectral wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
That's YOUR opinion. I know some HC bands (I think), and I really
believe that the entire genre is not about musicianship and art, but
about aggression and loudness. But as I said: I don't know that many HC
bands.
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I think that is a generalisation. Some HC bands (much like
prog) have incredible musicians and the tone of the music is not about
how loud they can get it, but more about the crafting of the tunes -
Dillinger Escape Plan, for example - I'm not a huge fan of them, but I
appreciate what they're doing and definitely how they are doing it.
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You know what are you talking about
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I don't think that Dillinger Escape Plan are HC. They are Mathcore, if anything. |
 Now you can go f**k your self. 
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
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And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.
Carpe Diem!
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:34 |
bogdan. wrote:
spectral wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
That's YOUR opinion. I know some HC bands (I think), and I really believe that the entire genre is not about musicianship and art, but about aggression and loudness. But as I said: I don't know that many HC bands.
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I think that is a generalisation. Some HC bands (much like prog) have incredible musicians and the tone of the music is not about how loud they can get it, but more about the crafting of the tunes - Dillinger Escape Plan, for example - I'm not a huge fan of them, but I appreciate what they're doing and definitely how they are doing it.
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You know what are you talking about
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I don't think that Dillinger Escape Plan are HC. They are Mathcore, if anything.
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:32 |
bogdan. wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
bogdan. wrote:
Just listen to Madame Germen |
Just give us some samples ...
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As cicatrizes do paraiso
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Listening to A Morte Das Linguas right now ... it sucks. The Mars Volta does it a million times better. Boring song structures, the vocals are repetitive just not musical, extremely poor production, the guitar work is dull, and the whole thing is just not tight.
Listen to Extol:
http://www.undeceived.net/
They do everything better than Madame Germen.
Sorry if I sound a little harsh, but that's my honest opinion. Feel free to bash Extol any way you want ... 
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:30 |
spectral wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
That's YOUR opinion. I know some HC bands (I think), and I really
believe that the entire genre is not about musicianship and art, but
about aggression and loudness. But as I said: I don't know that many HC
bands.
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I think that is a generalisation. Some HC bands (much like
prog) have incredible musicians and the tone of the music is not about
how loud they can get it, but more about the crafting of the tunes -
Dillinger Escape Plan, for example - I'm not a huge fan of them, but I
appreciate what they're doing and definitely how they are doing it. |
You know what are you talking about
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.
Carpe Diem!
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:30 |
bogdan. wrote:
Hammill wrote:
Bogdan what do you mean by saying hardcore? bands like madball, anistiic front, earth crisis etc?
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It is not Bogdan, but bogdan. . And I mean Madame German and other bands I am asking you to sugest.
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yeah sorry for using B instead of b...anyway
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:28 |
Hammill wrote:
Bogdan what do you mean by saying hardcore? bands like madball, anistiic front, earth crisis etc?
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It is not Bogdan, but bogdan. . And I mean Madame German and other bands I am asking you to sugest.
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.
Carpe Diem!
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:26 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
That's YOUR opinion. I know some HC bands (I think), and I really believe that the entire genre is not about musicianship and art, but about aggression and loudness. But as I said: I don't know that many HC bands.
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I think that is a generalisation. Some HC bands (much like prog) have incredible musicians and the tone of the music is not about how loud they can get it, but more about the crafting of the tunes - Dillinger Escape Plan, for example - I'm not a huge fan of them, but I appreciate what they're doing and definitely how they are doing it.
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"...misty halos made visible by the spectral illumination of moonshine."
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:22 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
bogdan. wrote:
Just listen to Madame Germen |
Just give us some samples ... |
As cicatrizes do paraiso
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.
Carpe Diem!
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:21 |
bogdan. wrote:
There are so many better HC bands then Ayreon.
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That's YOUR opinion. I know some HC bands (I think), and I really believe that the entire genre is not about musicianship and art, but about aggression and loudness. But as I said: I don't know that many HC bands.
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:20 |
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agnostic front
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:20 |
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Bogdan what do you mean by saying hardcore? bands like madball, anistiic front, earth crisis etc?
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:17 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Hammill wrote:
bogdan. wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I believe that some HC bands are better than some prog metal bands
... and I believe that some prog metal bands are better than some HC
bands.
BTW: WTFIHC?
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There are many prog metal bands better than HC,
That's not my question. I asked for bands better than some prog metal
bands (exp. Kamelot, Nightwish, Rhapsody, Therion, ...) |
mate
kamelot (us power metal), nightwish (symphonic pop/metal wannabes),
rhapsody( the biggest joke ever) and therion( only theli is prog and
maybe vovin, although i prefer vovin than theli) are not progressive
metal.
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Therion suck ... Kamelot rule. But I agree that all of those bands
are not prog metal in the usual definition of the genre. In my book
however, there exist such genres like Progressive Power Metal
(Kamelot). But the "heart" of prog metal is what I like to call
Symphonic Progressive Metal: Pain of Salvation, Heaven's Cry, Psychotic
Waltz, Threshold, Ayreon etc. I indeed doubt that ANY hardcore band
could possibly rival the musicanship and artistic level of those bands. |
There are so many better HC bands then Ayreon.
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.
Carpe Diem!
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:17 |
bogdan. wrote:
Just listen to Madame Germen |
Just give us some samples ...
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:16 |
Hammill wrote:
I believe that psychotic waltz is a genre of their own mate....just psychotic prog metal
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Or indeed some kind of Hardcore Progressive Metal.
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:13 |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
Hammill wrote:
bogdan. wrote:
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
I believe that some HC bands are better than some prog metal bands
... and I believe that some prog metal bands are better than some HC
bands.
BTW: WTFIHC?
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There are many prog metal bands better than HC,
That's not my question. I asked for bands better than some prog metal
bands (exp. Kamelot, Nightwish, Rhapsody, Therion, ...) |
mate
kamelot (us power metal), nightwish (symphonic pop/metal wannabes),
rhapsody( the biggest joke ever) and therion( only theli is prog and
maybe vovin, although i prefer vovin than theli) are not progressive
metal.
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Therion suck ... Kamelot rule. But I agree that all of those bands
are not prog metal in the usual definition of the genre. In my book
however, there exist such genres like Progressive Power Metal
(Kamelot). But the "heart" of prog metal is what I like to call
Symphonic Progressive Metal: Pain of Salvation, Heaven's Cry, Psychotic
Waltz, Threshold, Ayreon etc. I indeed doubt that ANY hardcore band
could possibly rival the musicanship and artistic level of those bands. |
I believe that psychotic waltz is a genre of their own mate....just psychotic prog metal
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Posted: July 18 2005 at 16:12 |
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Just listen to Madame Germen
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GATHER ye rosebuds while ye may,
Old Time is still a-flying:
And this same flower that smiles to-day
To-morrow will be dying.
Carpe Diem!
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