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I quit in january. I had a relapse one saturday afternoon, where I had a bit of a meltdown and smoked ten in a row. It was a wierd day. Things were not good..

That was a little under two months back, and I've not relapsed since. I carry an e-cig around with me and some nico gum, but I'm using both less and less. I never want to smoke again. Apart from anything else, I can't justify the expense.

Oh, and I was never a 'light up first thing in the morning' smoker. Never understood how anyone could do that, before eating drinking etc..


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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

The first cigarette of the day is not an adiction because I don't wake up "gasping" for a cigarette - I don't smack the alarm and instantly light-up - I get up, shower, make a cup of tea, feed the cats, have breakfast, prepare pack lunches, post on here, check the mail, get dressed, prepare for work... at some point in the last 15 minutes of that 90 minute sequence I might have a cigarette


Yup, I can relate to that - up, loo, shower, kettle on, BBC news on ("what IS she wearing?" moment), feed cats before they begin to gnaw on my bare feet (I am wearing a dressing gown btw), make coffee, convince Vicky what she's wearing is fine & her hair looks great, fall over cats, clean up cat vomit (Baggins always eats too quickly in the morning & 50% of the time deposits it onto the kitchen floor), iron shirt, get dressed, fall over cats (now asleep at top of stairs)... then 1st ciggie & coffee of the day - and it is good!

One of my (smoking) friends once told me the only thing a cigarette does is make you want the next one; not sure I go with that sentiment 100% but I know where he's coming from - when I get up, a cigarette is far from being my 1st thought.

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I think we are all made up differently. I can smoke 10 a day for 3 weeks and then not go near one for 2 years....honest. Now a drink on the other hand.....3 weeks tops. I personally believe all addictions are mind related. If I wanted my lungs to make decisions I would be running every day......
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Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

That is an interesting point. How would you feel if you caught your child? Let it go? Yell at them?
If you do/would do the latter...weird to punish your kid if you smoke yourself?

I did and I let it go - why should I do any different - I told her she was as stupid as I was when I started, but if she enjoyed smoking and if she got something out of it then so be it. The only time I ever said anything negative about her smoking was when she "needed" a cigarette before we got on a train, and I looked at her and said - 'no you don't - I've been smoking since I was 14 and smoke a lot, but I don't "need" to have a cigarette just because I'm going to be on a train for an hour and cannot smoke. If you cannot go an hour without a smoke then it is time to stop.'  She quit two months ago and I'm proud of her for that, because she wasn't smoking for pleasure.
 
 
My sister also smokes and she has this attitude:  everyone tells us that all smokers want to quit, or would quit if they could, if they had the will power, if they weren't so adicted - and we all nod sagely and agree with them because we know the harm that cigarettes do and of course we don't want to die and all that bollocks ...but my sister would not agree with them, she says if she wanted to quit she would quit, she smokes because she enjoys smoking - and deep down I suspect many smokers know that. The first cigarette of the day is not an adiction because I don't wake up "gasping" for a cigarette - I don't smack the alarm and instantly light-up - I get up, shower, make a cup of tea, feed the cats, have breakfast, prepare pack lunches, post on here, check the mail, get dressed, prepare for work... at some point in the last 15 minutes of that 90 minute sequence I might have a cigarette, or I might wait until I get to work (I rarely smoke in the car and never on a short journey) - the adiction bit, the withdrawl, kicks in much later than that - days, even weeks perhaps.
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I do smoke, I know it's not good for my health but I do anyway, there are many other things which are not good for my health. However I always try to be resonably respectful towards non-smokers.
 
Men have smoked for hundreds of years, apart from the modern western cigar or cigarette habit we have to remember south-american tribes or eastern cultures, in one or another way smoking has existed for very long. I'm not arguing that it isn't bad but hey, people have smoked for centuries and they lived long enough to have respectable lives, had healthy children, whatever.
Maybe we should check whether it is not that the tobacco they sell to us nowadays is so artificially manipulated that it does increase the risks.
Cancer rate may have increased but smoking is a very old habit, does the increase in cancer rates really have a lot to do with smoking? There's no doubt that smoking increases the chances of cancer, but as i said smoking has been going for a very long time (at least in healthier forms of tobacco), it is likely that other factors are contributing to the increase of cancer as well.
 
I remember clearly 30 years ago, you could smoke in the airplanes, trains, subway coaches, restaurants, anywhere, and nobody complained. The guests on a TV debate would all be smoking on screen, most of the movie stars smoked... It's more a cultural thing than a fundamental one.
 
I'm not going to say that smoking should be promoted, but I think that we have moved from one extreme to the other when there was no real motivation for it. Let's respect eachother, that's for me the key point.
 
 
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That is an interesting point. How would you feel if you caught your child? Let it go? Yell at them?
If you do/would do the latter...weird to punish your kid if you smoke yourself?


Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I have smoked things, and I will probably do it again. However, by no means do I smoke. 



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Originally posted by darkshade darkshade wrote:

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Peter: What the hell is he talking about?
Englishman: Oh, it’s Cricket. Marvelous game, really. You see, the bowler hurls the ball toward the batter who tries to play away a fine leg. He endeavors to score by dashing between the creases, provided the wicket keeper hasn’t whipped his bails off, of course.
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I have smoked things, and I will probably do it again. However, by no means do I smoke. 
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Vicky and I use similar ones; cannot stand it when in the countryside or fishing or in a beauty spot of some kind when you see cigarette ends everywhere; as Vicky says, "leave nothing but a footprint & take nothing but a photograph"

Before when you picked up your fag-butts and put them in a tin you were a vagrant, now you are a law-abiding citizen. Isn't modern society a wonderful thing. Approve


Its rather interesting to me how in different nationalities, different words mean different things. In some places in the world, fag is a cigarette, or a pile of sticks, or in the US, a very derogatory name! So, on first glance, I thought you were calling Jim a nasty name!
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No, I don't. For one, I'm an asthmatic, but also it never really apealled to me. I really don't understand why people start smoking these days with all of the information there is now on how dangerous it can be. Then there's my 80 year-old grandfather, who has smoked constantly since we was a teenager, and has no health issues. Strange.
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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Vicky and I use similar ones; cannot stand it when in the countryside or fishing or in a beauty spot of some kind when you see cigarette ends everywhere; as Vicky says, "leave nothing but a footprint & take nothing but a photograph"
Before when you picked up your fag-butts and put them in a tin you were a vagrant, now you are a law-abiding citizen. Isn't modern society a wonderful thing. Approve
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Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:

i don't smoke, but i wish i could afford a smoking tuxido


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i don't smoke, but i wish i could afford a smoking tuxido
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Vicky and I use similar ones; cannot stand it when in the countryside or fishing or in a beauty spot of some kind when you see cigarette ends everywhere; as Vicky says, "leave nothing but a footprint & take nothing but a photograph"

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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Now fines for dropping your butts on the ground would make more sense.
We have that - my daughter has been caught twice and she got no sympathy from me (or any help paying the fines) - I carry a pocket ashtray, they're cheap, they don't make your pocket smell and they work.


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I don't know what vehemently rabid non smokers have to worry about - all that riding such a high horse to the moral high ground must result in the cleanest air possible


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I don't but my wife does.  If there's good ventilation, there is peace.

I find it rather amusing that some local places are banning smoking outdoors in parks.  I'm thinking smokers need to be outdoors and get fresh air.   Now fines for dropping your butts on the ground would make more sense.
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I go thru bouts where I will smoke about a pack a week, then maybe for a few months, nothing at all. I also enjoy hookah.
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