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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 09:33
Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts dreadpirateroberts wrote:

Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Robert: Alright, I'm a crazy person. The moderation is infallible and no one should ever say otherwise because it's just not possible that a well-meaning mod might get a bit heavy-handed. The day is saved. Woohoo. Pats on the back all round.


Well done, sarcasm, compelling stuff.

I don't give a rat's arse if you don't like the moderation, suck it up. Your childish posts will not change anything, give up.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 08:21
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

^Well if that is the response then that was my last post here.Ermm
 
 
Haha- I'm just joking around. It's just funny to see words like arse and seeing people use sarcasm. The anger is escalating and I feel like it is for no reason at all.
 
It is because I understand what you guys are saying, but its kinda pointless to really continue on about it. It's not like the people in charge have a personal vendetta against anyone. I haven't really had anything of mine deleted, and if I have had anything deleted I haven't noticed. Because if a post of mine was deleted, I can't get angry about it.
 
I'm posting on a forum and the people in charge have the right to do whatever they want because I'm not in charge and they are. IT'S ONLY THE INTERNET. Nothing we say on this website is going to change the world.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 08:17
^Well if that is the response then that was my last post here.Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 08:15
WOOT drama give me more guys I'm starting to enjoy this!
 
 
hmm... someone talk about someone else's mom! That would make things interesting. Even better if that guy's mom is really ill or something. I wanna see bullets flying!
 
Even better someone could talk crap about me just trying to egg everything on and not contributing to the conversation. Then, even though I dont get mad about anything, I could blow up in your faces and storm off into the bathroom to cry.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 08:01
I have to say though that some of the Admin team I respect hugely and like very, very much. Some of them in the past I have disliked. Just like any member here.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:56
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Robert: Alright, I'm a crazy person. The moderation is infallible and no one should ever say otherwise because it's just not possible that a well-meaning mod might get a bit heavy-handed. The day is saved. Woohoo. Pats on the back all round.


Well done, sarcasm, compelling stuff.

I don't give a rat's arse if you don't like the moderation, suck it up. Your childish posts will not change anything, give up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:55

Yeah that looked like I was implying it was you, sorry, that was just coincidence of when I posted. It really wasn't SD, but who it was doesn't matter. What I was saying is some people feel this way, management can react or not.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:53
It wasn't me.LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:52
Also, in fairness of disclosing PMs, I also got one from a prominent user who says he agrees with me that the moderation is too conservative but that the place seems to be incapable of having a dialogue about it so he's kept his mouth shut. I'm sure you'll all think I am making that PM up but I am *not*.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:52
I do understand what you mean Textbook I really do. I actually agree with what you are saying. I don't see anything you posted as being too bad. But that's me. I have had many posts hidden too. i didn't agree with them too. Some that were hidden i just plainly didn't see the reason at all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:50

Well that sucks that the show's over... I love drama.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:48
Robert: Alright, I'm a crazy person. The moderation is infallible and no one should ever say otherwise because it's just not possible that a well-meaning mod might get a bit heavy-handed. The day is saved. Woohoo. Pats on the back all round.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:46
Npjnpj: I post on lots of other forums- this would easily be the most conservative of them in terms of moderation. In fact, that is the basis of the complaint in the first place. It is just simply not true, at all, that on any other forum I would have my knee caps removed for saying "Hey I don't think that should've been modded".
I think your impression of me is coloured by that Beastie Boys thread and I think you are the slimey one who simply posted to show how on message you are.
Anyway, I'm fine with letting this go now. I had a complaint, it was heard. If people keep saying things here I'll keep responding, but otherwise, show's over.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:42
Originally posted by Textbook Textbook wrote:

Alitare: As with Robert's previous post, this is a strange tack to take. It's like you're actually saying I'm correct but it's OK to flout authority when you feel like it which I'm pretty sure you don't really mean.
 
Robert: I think the place would be better if the mods weren't so out of touch. By drawing attention to it, change may (or may not of course) eventually come about.


My concern with what you're doing is that I don't believe you're close to achieving what you want to with your efforts, which makes your behavior appear delusional. 

I would also argue that rather than being a 'strange tack' - a refusal to engage with your OP is a comment all on its own.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:39

I can't find a single thing wrong about how the admins here handle any situations.

Textbook, I believe that if you tried your stunts on any other sites, you'd have your virtual knee caps removed.

You can't go around insulting and criticizing people (including admins) and then slime your way out of it by stating that it was all well intended for the good of all and in a spirit of good nature. Our friendly neighbourhood people's revolutionary and martyr.

You have problems, mate, get help.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 07:28
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

If you're so upset, where were you when I was trying to organize my coup!?
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2012 at 06:34
To the person sending me PMs: I'd rather not PM, but I have sent you in compromise. I believe a discussion about the quality of moderation should be had in public. I also believe you hugely misunderstand me. You paint me as some sort of forum destroying villain who has waged a campaign of hate on the mods and wants no moderation at all and that is simply not true. I simply thought that in this instance you got it wrong and I told you so. I didn't ask for anyone to quit, I don't think anyone needs to quit, I was just going "Hey, I think that's a bit trigger happy". You're free to reflect on whether that might be true or dismiss it. I'm not your boss, but I use the site, I give it traffic, I'm feeding back on how it's run. Maybe I don't deliver that feedback in the most ideal way possible but why should I be expected to, no one's an ideal person.
As for your assault on my character, it's true that I come across as acerbic because I don't self-censor and water down my opinions to make sure they make everybody feel cosy. I call it honesty, you can call it being obnoxious or arrogant. I'm comfortable with that, it's not a "one must fall" situation.
 
Yeah it's true that I don't go around pointing it out every time good moderation is done but I'm generally unaware of any modding that doesn't affect posts I'm involved in and besides, in politics/business, silence is often approval anyway.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2012 at 23:41
If you're so upset, where were you when I was trying to organize my coup!?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2012 at 21:26
Originally posted by colorofmoney91 colorofmoney91 wrote:

I agree with Textbook, poking fun at an authority figure in such a harmless way doesn't need to be censored. 

I've had a few of my posts censored, reasonably, which I was okay with. I'm not even sure what "fuddy duddy" even means, but it barely seems serious or offensive in anyway. I'd probably giggle if someone called me that, and I'm younger and way less mature than probably all of the admins. 

That being said, I'm not meaning to be critical of the admins. I think they do a good job and generally have good reasons for doing whatever they do, and I think I speak for most of the members of the site by saying that we are thankful for the job that the admins do on this site.

but f**k da police.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2012 at 20:47
 I think it may be more that you should not criticize anyone; members, Collabs, Admin, whomever--  seriously, what has anyone done here - other than artists whose work is on the site or posted in the Forum -  that is worth criticism ?    People are here to either enjoy or contribute to the site, and neither of those activities warrant a critique.   Everyone just does the best they can, and if there's an issue between certain parties than it may need to be resolved.   But that is different from issuing a report card, which is more about judgment and narcissism than anything else.

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