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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 16:29
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

^ Maybe he is older than all of us......we don't know at this point. That album was too big for anyone at any age as a first listen. To me it seems that those two words sometimes get used as another way to ask "why is it not good?" Which I don't think has anything to do with beign appreciated or not........just how I feel I guess.
 
I'm a vinyl guy, and am on my 2nd copy......I appreciate it so much that soon I will get a 3rd vinyl copy.

The OP likes it but thinks most people don't so by extension he believes that to be the case generally. He thought the majority here felt the same. He was wrong obviously.


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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

^ Maybe he is older than all of us......we don't know at this point. That album was too big for anyone at any age as a first listen. To me it seems that those two words sometimes get used as another way to ask "why is it not good?" Which I don't think has anything to do with beign appreciated or not........just how I feel I guess.
 
I'm a vinyl guy, and am on my 2nd copy......I appreciate it so much that soon I will get a 3rd vinyl copy.
I find it a much better value when I buy albums that I don't already have.  Tongue
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Points: 17966 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 16:17
^ Maybe he is older than all of us......we don't know at this point. That album was too big for anyone at any age as a first listen. To me it seems that those two words sometimes get used as another way to ask "why is it not good?" Which I don't think has anything to do with beign appreciated or not........just how I feel I guess.
 
I'm a vinyl guy, and am on my 2nd copy......I appreciate it so much that soon I will get a 3rd vinyl copy.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

I don't care about anyones ratings and if you are looking for us to tell you why you should appreciate it......then that tells me the album is too big for you.
Bottomline is you have to sit back and listen a few times and decide for yourself.
 
I appreciate everything I listen to, even if I end up not liking it, because I appreciate what the artist is trying to do for me. To me ratings don't equate to Appreciated or Underappreciated.


Andrew is a newbe here. He doesn’t reveal his age, but I guess he’s a lot younger than you and me. He obviously loves Relayer, so it’s meaningless to say that the album’s too big for him. I loved that album at the age of 17, and I still do.
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It's my fave yes album......
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I don't care about anyones ratings and if you are looking for us to tell you why you should appreciate it......then that tells me the album is too big for you.
Bottomline is you have to sit back and listen a few times and decide for yourself.
 
I appreciate everything I listen to, even if I end up not liking it, because I appreciate what the artist is trying to do for me. To me ratings don't equate to Appreciated or Underappreciated.
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Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Currently, it is the third most highly rated Yes album on the ProgArchives, and number 30 overall, which is no mean feat. I don't think that counts as underappreciated, although as my favorite Yes album it rates much higher to me personally.  Nor do I particularly care that much where it falls in any top list.  Those numbers just represent common denominators.  As others have said, it is not an album that one can get into easily or quickly, but it is one whose dimensions reveal themselves on repeated listens.  I suspect some detractors may not have the patience it requires to fully appreciate, but who knows?  We don't all have to 'get it' nor do we all have to enjoy the same things to the same degree.  The only thing that matters, as I frequently say, is how much you appreciate it when you listen to it.


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I love Relayer. 
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Like many before me have said: it is not underappreciated; plus it is one of my favorite Yes albums. I don't have the time to write good reviews, but I would give it 5 stars myself as well.
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It's very appreciated on PA as far as I can see.

I think it's pretty good. Three stars.
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Relayer is probably my least favorite Yes album from the 70's (yes, that includes Tormato).  I like Gates, but it's certainly not my favorite of their epics (Revealing Science, The Remembering, Awaken, CTTE and Endless Dream are higher on my list) and the other two songs really don't do much for me.  So it probably is underappreciated by me as it seems to be highly regarded in prog circles. 
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It's extremely well appreciated. in fact, it's difficult to think of too many albums more appreciated.
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^ Pretty much what I was just about to post. It is very well appreciated. 
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Points: 4287 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 06:18
4.34 avrage rating
267 reviews
1217 ratings
56% 5 stars !!!!!!!!!!!
Many other very good albums, would kill for that
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 05:57
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Admin  Ghost edit - I couldn't live with "underapriciated" in the thread title any longer. Stern Smile

I don't blame you. It was very irksome.
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It is described in Aymeric Leroy's book Rock Progressif as a Yes masterpiece. It's my favourite Yes record with Close to the Edge.

Probably underappreciated by a more mainstream fringe of the prog audience, but as it can be quite challenging there's no surprise in here. I think it's appreciated just how it deserve to be.
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Admin  Ghost edit - I couldn't live with "underapriciated" in the thread title any longer. Stern Smile
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 05:50
I might as well add also that it is my favourite Yes album and one of my favourite albums ever by anyone.
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 05:48
I think it is appreciated just fine. My favourite Yes album by a very long way, and IMO Brufford would have ruined it - Alan White's druming is perfect.
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 12 2011 at 02:53
Originally posted by CCVP CCVP wrote:

I don't think it is underappreciated, but in fact other albums are more appreciated than Relayer.
+1 Cool

And Bob, I guess he might want to say so ... and, as I've done previously, a PA newbie cannot help posting something I imagine? Wink


Edited by DamoXt7942 - December 12 2011 at 02:55
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