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The Doctor 
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 Posted: October 25 2011 at 20:56 |
 Eärendil wrote:
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Yes, there is some evidence to support that as well. However, cannibalism by itself does not imply an uncivilized culture, but merely one in which meat was needed. Just because they didn't have our modern morality, does not mean they weren't civilized. In fact, I would say our modern morality leaves a lot to be desired (although I don't support cannibalism - I want that on the record.  ).
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Glad you cleared that up. 
... but scenario  :
You are in the Donner Party. Everyone's doing it. If you can still be "civilized" after eating someone else, so would you do it? |
I'm not sure anyone can know what they would do in that situation unless they were actually faced with it. Who knows what would win out in that situation, hunger or revulsion at the thought. I can't say, can you?
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 20:55 |
Stick to the f**king topic!  
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 20:51 |
The Doctor wrote:
Yes, there is some evidence to support that as well. However, cannibalism by itself does not imply an uncivilized culture, but merely one in which meat was needed. Just because they didn't have our modern morality, does not mean they weren't civilized. In fact, I would say our modern morality leaves a lot to be desired (although I don't support cannibalism - I want that on the record. ).
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Glad you cleared that up.
... but scenario :
You are in the Donner Party. Everyone's doing it. If you can still be "civilized" after eating someone else, so would you do it?
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 20:43 |
Yes, there is some evidence to support that as well. However, cannibalism by itself does not imply an uncivilized culture, but merely one in which meat was needed. Just because they didn't have our modern morality, does not mean they weren't civilized. In fact, I would say our modern morality leaves a lot to be desired (although I don't support cannibalism - I want that on the record. ).
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Earendil
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 20:39 |
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Oh, well, now we can't have any of that. After all, things were so great at the dawn of man before social hierarchy emerged. Neanderthals had it made d00d!
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There is actually some speculation that Neanderthals may have been more peaceful and civilized than Homo Sapiens and had a more cooperative spirit. Too bad we wiped them out.
Oh, but just to keep us on topic, 
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Yeah, it would be safe to say that's speculation. Also, the omniscient wikipedia says they might have practiced cannibalism.
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 20:30 |
Deathrabbit wrote:
Oh, well, now we can't have any of that. After all, things were so great at the dawn of man before social hierarchy emerged. Neanderthals had it made d00d!
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There is actually some speculation that Neanderthals may have been more peaceful and civilized than Homo Sapiens and had a more cooperative spirit. Too bad we wiped them out. Oh, but just to keep us on topic,
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 20:09 |
Oh, well, now we can't have any of that. After all, things were so great at the dawn of man before social hierarchy emerged. Neanderthals had it made d00d!
Edited by Deathrabbit - October 25 2011 at 20:13
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 20:02 |
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manofmystery wrote:
I find the headbanger emoticon far more offensive than any word. Can that be censored? |
If you can develop a societal consensus that it is foul and taboo, then sure, why not. |
But that would almost be tantamount to government. YIKES!
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 20:01 |
manofmystery wrote:
I find the headbanger emoticon far more offensive than any word. Can that be censored? |
If you can develop a societal consensus that it is foul and taboo, then sure, why not.
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 19:47 |
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I find the headbanger emoticon far more offensive than any word. Can that be censored?
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 18:58 |
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 18:18 |
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Frankly, my dear, I am apathetic.
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 18:10 |
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To be honest, when you add "f**k" to a sentence to make it sound more powerful, the "**" actually help highlight the word... |
But why do you need to add 'f**k' to a sentence to add to its power? |
It depends on the sentence. Sometimes adding swear words to a sentence adds nothing, but sometimes they are more powerful. For example "get out" vs. "get the f out" Or how about "go away" vs. "go f yourself"? I personally think we should ONLY allow swear words as all other words are superfluous.
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 16:37 |
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I guess that's up to the reader
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 07:01 |
I under stand that, but does a profanity necessarily add 'power' to a sentence? Personally, I think it detracts.
Of course, that's only my ing opinion 
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 04:38 |
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^ you don't; I would say there are certain writers in the confines of printed books or articles that may curse in the context of the story or account being told - Bukowski comes to mind, and Anthony Bourdain - sometimes it works, sometimes it's gratuitous. For internet conversations, I find it unnecessary. However I readily admit using mild profanity when engaging in music journalism. Sometimes you wanna write it how you'd say it.
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Posted: October 25 2011 at 04:16 |
The T wrote:
To be honest, when you add "f**k" to a sentence to make it sound more powerful, the "**" actually help highlight the word... |
But why do you need to add 'f**k' to a sentence to add to its power?
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Posted: October 24 2011 at 22:29 |
jammun wrote:
manofmystery wrote:
Luca Pacchiarini wrote:
I don't have a preference, since I'm not going to swear in English, ever.
I do swear occasionally, in situations of extreme dispair and frustration, but... on the Internet... and in a foreign language it'd seem strange to me...
Swearing is probably, together with counting numbers, the thing you'll never spontaneously learn to do in another language which is not your natural one. |
Most Russian/European born hockey players who make their living in the NHL would beg to differ. And actually, I'd wager "swear" words are the first, and sometimes the only, words most people learn in a foreign language. The "dirty" words are about all I retained from 4 years of German. |
Ha the story goes that when Ichiro first came over here and joined the Mariners, the first thing (courtesy Jay Buhner) he learned to do was to swear. |
That's the first thing Evgeni Malkin learned in the Penguins locker room and if the tv guys get their mics too close, to the ice, it's still the only English you'll probably catch from him. Being Pittsburgh we all just find it endearing.
Edited by manofmystery - October 24 2011 at 22:30
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Posted: October 24 2011 at 20:23 |
manofmystery wrote:
Luca Pacchiarini wrote:
I don't have a preference, since I'm not going to swear in English, ever.
I do swear occasionally, in situations of extreme dispair and frustration, but... on the Internet... and in a foreign language it'd seem strange to me...
Swearing is probably, together with counting numbers, the thing you'll never spontaneously learn to do in another language which is not your natural one. |
Most Russian/European born hockey players who make their living in the NHL would beg to differ. And actually, I'd wager "swear" words are the first, and sometimes the only, words most people learn in a foreign language. The "dirty" words are about all I retained from 4 years of German. |
Ha the story goes that when Ichiro first came over here and joined the Mariners, the first thing (courtesy Jay Buhner) he learned to do was to swear.
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Posted: October 24 2011 at 20:09 |
Luca Pacchiarini wrote:
I don't have a preference, since I'm not going to swear in English, ever.
I do swear occasionally, in situations of extreme dispair and frustration, but... on the Internet... and in a foreign language it'd seem strange to me...
Swearing is probably, together with counting numbers, the thing you'll never spontaneously learn to do in another language which is not your natural one. |
Most Russian/European born hockey players who make their living in the NHL would beg to differ. And actually, I'd wager "swear" words are the first, and sometimes the only, words most people learn in a foreign language. The "dirty" words are about all I retained from 4 years of German.
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