Mike Portnoy has sued Dream Theater

MIke Portnoy knows a lot of music theory and music composition. If you go to a music college FOR WHATEVER INSTRUMENT YOU PLAY you have to know theory. You have to know chords and scales and how they work, even if you're a drummer.

Yes, he may not have actually come up with the actual notes, chords, riffs, etc... But he was integral in the arrangement department; that can be felt a lot on ADTOE. And since he knows theory, he may have even altered some parts, like "John, play that chord sequence, and then go to the minor instead of the major, it sounds more badass that way" For example. His drum rhythms (at least in older albums) also affected how a part would sound.

Point is, losing him was more than losing a drummer (which is a big deal anyway, as it affects the overall feel of the songs), but he was also a key member in terms of the songwriting. As far as the direction DT went on the last 2 albums, that's a whole 'nother story.

Andyman1125 wrote: Slaughternalia wrote: His songwriting credit was based off his arrangements and construction of the songs I think. Like choosing when to reprise a theme and junk. I don't think he composed any tunes or anything I'm not going to feed a troll, sorry.

then don't answer to nay of his posts.

 

Tony R wrote: Describing mundane actions like those taken on a messageboard as "fascist" is just fatuous. And infantile.

Because I was clearly 100% serious in that post...

Slaughternalia wrote: I always thought he was a fag. He thinks he was such an integral part of DT, but I'm pretty sure he was little more than a drummer with a huge ego. I mean does he even know anything about music theory and composition? doubtful

inb4 b&.

Slaughternalia wrote: Andyman1125 wrote: Slaughternalia wrote: I always thought he was a fag. He thinks he was such an integral part of DT, but I'm pretty sure he was little more than a drummer with a huge ego. I mean does he even know anything about music theory and composition? doubtful Wow, what an unintelligent post. Don't forget he went to Berklee.....  I read somewhere that he didn't actually write any of the music in DT

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:   I'm sorry, but you seem to have a gigantic MP bias. He's been a real a****le throughout this whole situation and deserves the flak. He's constantly playing the victim when he brings things upon himself. And about the band saying bad things about him, wow you're really trying hard to even the playing field with this one. MP himself admits that he wants to be the center of attention often. LaBrie said it as well, and it does detract from the bigger picture. Is it the bands fault that he's like this? No. Is it MPs fault he's in this situation? Yes. Now about me loving Portnoy, I still do love his drumming and he is still amongst my favourite drummers, but I actually preferred Mangini on this album. And yeah I'll admit, he sounded like Portnoy on the album a bit, but I found Mangini showed more skill in the harder spots. Besides, John wrote all the drum parts ahead of time, so you'd think John would be used to playing with MP for 25 years and sort of gets his drumming style in his head.

Slaughternalia wrote: I always thought he was a fag. He thinks he was such an integral part of DT, but I'm pretty sure he was little more than a drummer with a huge ego. I mean does he even know anything about music theory and composition? doubtful

I always thought he was a fag. He thinks he was such an integral part of DT, but I'm pretty sure he was little more than a drummer with a huge ego. I mean does he even know anything about music theory and composition? doubtful

TheClosing wrote: DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:   Of course, MP can never do anything wrong. It sorta annoys me when he tries to act a victim in every situation. It sorta annoys me how people are acting like he's Dr. Evil all the sudden. How come he can't say anything bad, but the band can? How come people are acting like they know the full story? Really do people feel the band's livelihood hinges on unquestionably praising the new album and bashing MP? Plus weren't you like, "Portnoy is ta greatest ever" not too long ago? Now that Mangini is in the band he's all the sudden "better than Portnoy"? Well he may be technically, but news flash: they tried their hardest to make him sound like Portnoy on ADToE.  I'm sure most of you would act similarly if put in the same situation as the guy, so relax a bit and put down the pitchforks.

I'm sorry, but you seem to have a gigantic MP bias. He's been a real a****le throughout this whole situation and deserves the flak. He's constantly playing the victim when he brings things upon himself. And about the band saying bad things about him, wow you're really trying hard to even the playing field with this one. MP himself admits that he wants to be the center of attention often. LaBrie said it as well, and it does detract from the bigger picture. Is it the bands fault that he's like this? No. Is it MPs fault he's in this situation? Yes.

Now about me loving Portnoy, I still do love his drumming and he is still amongst my favourite drummers, but I actually preferred Mangini on this album. And yeah I'll admit, he sounded like Portnoy on the album a bit, but I found Mangini showed more skill in the harder spots. Besides, John wrote all the drum parts ahead of time, so you'd think John would be used to playing with MP for 25 years and sort of gets his drumming style in his head. 

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:   Of course, MP can never do anything wrong. It sorta annoys me when he tries to act a victim in every situation.

Edited by TheClosing - September 20 2011 at 16:54