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harmonium.ro
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Posted: September 20 2011 at 09:19 |
I notified the Heavy Prog Team.
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Marty McFly
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2009 Location: Czech Republic Status: Offline Points: 3968 |
Posted: September 15 2011 at 18:11 |
It's fine music. As it is with this kind of music, my girlfriend absolutely loves them. For me, the can be borderline Crossover Prog. I was undecided back then when we were voting, but the rest of the Crossover team were sure that this is NO Crossover Prog. Symphonic Prog - if you want my opinion, they stand 0% chance. I can't see a scenario, where they would be accepted. Symph is completely different kind of music. Prog-Related ? That one "should" have lesser demands on Prog side, but it's not even more difficult to get there in some cases. |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
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yam yam
Collaborator Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Online Points: 6355 |
Posted: September 15 2011 at 08:31 |
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: September 15 2011 at 08:11 |
^ agreed. We won't let that happen.
Edited by harmonium.ro - September 15 2011 at 08:11 |
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yam yam
Collaborator Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Online Points: 6355 |
Posted: September 15 2011 at 08:08 |
Here's ProGGnosis's take on the matter: http://www.proggnosis.com/PGRelease.asp?RID=34269. Another quite positive review which more or less makes the same statement regarding the dificulty of assigning this music to a specific genre. It will be a great shame if this band can't be found a place on here somewhere, I feel. Perhaps prog-related will ultimately be the only option. The pedigree of the musicians involved in the project will surely qualify them for that category if nothing else. There are some pure neo prog passages interspersed throughout the album, but I guess nowhere enough of them to get the guys a serious shot in that category. Difficult one, I know - but to let this band/album fall by the wayside completely would be awful imho.
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harmonium.ro
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 18 2008 Location: Anna Calvi Status: Offline Points: 22989 |
Posted: September 15 2011 at 06:31 |
This is neither Symphonic nor Crossover, but that kind of heavy instrumental prog fusion that doesn't really have its own category on PA - no jazz to qualify for JR/F, not heavy enough for Heavy Prog... These bands tend to get ping-pong'd by genre teams. I'll have to think.
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yam yam
Collaborator Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Online Points: 6355 |
Posted: September 15 2011 at 06:15 |
Excellent review of this album by Steven Reid on seaoftranquility.org: http://www.seaoftranquility.org/reviews.php?op=showcontent&id=11492. Pretty well sums it up perfectly.
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yam yam
Collaborator Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Online Points: 6355 |
Posted: August 31 2011 at 21:24 |
No new album released as yet - don't forget, the last one was only finished earlier this year, though the band have begun working on the next one according to their facebook page http://www.facebook.com/41POINT9. It's a shame that they can't be re-evaluated on the strength of the quality of their debut. I'd like to know why crossover rejected them - I can only assume that they considered the material to be too close to AOR to be included on here. There certainly is an overall AORish sound to the album, but the song structures go far beyond the usual AOR fayre. I wonder what the neo team would make of it if they had a listen? There's always prog-related I suppose, but that would really be doing these guys an injustice. I can only hope a collaborator who has heard the album & liked it picks up on this thread and can find a way to move things forward somehow.
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Andy Webb
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: June 04 2010 Location: Terria Status: Offline Points: 13298 |
Posted: August 31 2011 at 19:25 |
have they released a new album since their debut? That's the only wah they can be reevaluated.
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yam yam
Collaborator Crossover Team Joined: June 16 2011 Location: Kerberos Status: Online Points: 6355 |
Posted: August 31 2011 at 07:10 |
Nathaniel607 suggested them for crossover back in February, but they were rejected for some reason. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76207&KW=41point9&PID=4069967#4069967 They are a fine prog band imho, with some well-respected musicians from existing established prog acts (Enchant, Spock's Beard), and should be included on here somewhere for sure. Perhaps they could have voted "move" last time instead of simply rejecting them? Not sure if they are really symphonic though - it is certainly more melodic and accessible than complex and experimental - maybe neo might give them a chance, but I still think crossover is the place they really ought to be. Don't know whether 'second chances' are allowed here though.
Edited by yam yam - August 31 2011 at 11:31 |
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Svetonio
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 20 2010 Location: Serbia Status: Offline Points: 10213 |
Posted: August 31 2011 at 05:40 |
41Point9 is the band from California. They released a debut album titled Still Looking For The Answers for Prog Rock Records. CD is available to buy at http://www.41point9.com/ Edited by Svetonio - August 31 2011 at 05:55 |
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