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cstack3 
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 Posted: July 02 2011 at 12:25 |
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Fly From Here is really disapointing, I thought it would have some newer sound to it but it sounds old! WHY! Why can't they make good old prog again! And for the rest of the year it's good but not too much for me. It's not incredible but not that disapointing. Actually I had not felt this year as good for prog. The Luyas made a new album and after that I did not follow the year in prog that much. |
I have to agree, although I haven't heard the album in its entirety yet. Yes (aka Squire) seems to be grasping at straws here, either trying to revisit the Drama era (which, if we recall, was rejected by fans and trashed by crits at the time, although much-adored on PA).
Squire, feh! Really, what has he done, outside of Yes? One decent solo LP back in the '70's (made better by all the Yes-Men on board), a couple of so-so Conspiracy CDs with Sherwood, and what else?
At least Howe participated in Asia and GTR, which managed some really good radio airplay and generated some very good music. From what I can tell, old-school Yes fans are avoiding this version of Yes in droves. Bringing in the Buggles impresses nobody from what I can tell, and the guitar/bass is so far back in the mix, I expect to buy this CD when they clog the specials-bin at the used CD shop!
But, there will be good news in 2011! I just read that both John Wetton AND Brian Eno have new CDs to be issued in days to weeks! I tip my hat to John, perhaps the single most successful prog bassist, ever! And Eno sure is a war-horse!
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 20:39 |
Fly From Here is really disapointing, I thought it would have some newer sound to it but it sounds old! WHY! Why can't they make good old prog again! And for the rest of the year it's good but not too much for me. It's not incredible but not that disapointing. Actually I had not felt this year as good for prog. The Luyas made a new album and after that I did not follow the year in prog that much.
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 20:31 |
DavetheSlave wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
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However it isn't really comparible to the Relayer, CTTE era of Yes - anyone expecting a return to those heights will be sorely disappointed.
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Has anybody ever reasonably thought Yes would return to 1972 since Tormato? If Yes hasn't done so yet, why would anyone think they would now?
I mean come on- people here get disgusted when bands emulate the 70s, and now people want Yes- with a new lead singer, no less- to "return" to CTTE or Relayer in 2011.
Get over it, I say, and enjoy the music on its own terms.
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 Note that I said return to those heights - not return to that style or method.
The album is a nice enough album but it just does not blow me away like those earlier Yes albums did upon first hearing them.
In fact - aside from Dream Theater I can't remember being blown away by by almost any new releases over the past few years. Maybe the age of the top rated albums here tells a story.
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Releases in the past few years I've been immediately "blown away" by: Diagonal Diagonal [2008] Sky Architect Excavations Of The Mind [2010] Anathema We're Here Because We're Here [2010]
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Posted: June 30 2011 at 03:45 |
Epignosis wrote:
DavetheSlave wrote:
However it isn't really comparible to the Relayer, CTTE era of Yes - anyone expecting a return to those heights will be sorely disappointed.
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Has anybody ever reasonably thought Yes would return to 1972 since Tormato? If Yes hasn't done so yet, why would anyone think they would now?
I mean come on- people here get disgusted when bands emulate the 70s, and now people want Yes- with a new lead singer, no less- to "return" to CTTE or Relayer in 2011.
Get over it, I say, and enjoy the music on its own terms.
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Note that I said return to those heights - not return to that style or method.
The album is a nice enough album but it just does not blow me away like those earlier Yes albums did upon first hearing them.
In fact - aside from Dream Theater I can't remember being blown away by by almost any new releases over the past few years. Maybe the age of the top rated albums here tells a story.
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 23:12 |
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cstack3 wrote:
What about Yes & "Fly From Here"? I've read PA reviews posted, but I get tired of the "Drama, Part 2" theme over & over.
I haven't heard the entire disc yet, and the samples aren't BAD...however, Howe and Squire really sound mixed down to near irrelevance.
I wasn't much of a Drama fan anyway, will FFH make 2011 a success, or just "meh"? |
I listened to the entirety of Fly From Here, and rather than Drama II, the feeling I got was Asia with Squire and Benoit David replacing Wetton. And you are correct about Howe and Squire. Howe's guitar sounds borderline neutered, and while you can hear Squire's bass, it isn't prominent enough. Too bad because he does have some good basslines (and some ordinary ones).
The material after the title epic is lighter, softer. "Hour Of Need" is very sedate and what might have been a nice Moog synthesizer solo by Oliver Wakeman is mixed so that it sounds irrelevant. The last track is called "Into The Storm" and I felt it may be the best song on the album. While I do consider Fly From Here much better than something like Talk, it's still a bit underwhelming. |
Thanks, that was an excellent review! I intend to give it a good listen, but the antics of the band to this point, including sacking Oliver, leave a bad taste in my mouth.
Then again, thus shall it ever be Yes! "Perpetual Change" & all that.
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 21:16 |
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I just got A Dying Man's Hymn in the mail today and have listened to it all the through just once. My initial impressions are very favorable, but I want to be able to listen to the whole thing all the way through without interruption which I didn't get today. I'll just say this: It's not nearly as ambitious as Excavations, but they also aren't trying to duplicate the sound either, which I can appreciate. This is a different album almost entirely and in a good way! :)
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 12:26 |
Epignosis wrote:
DavetheSlave wrote:
However it isn't really comparible to the Relayer, CTTE era of Yes - anyone expecting a return to those heights will be sorely disappointed.
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Has anybody ever reasonably thought Yes would return to 1972 since Tormato? If Yes hasn't done so yet, why would anyone think they would now?
I mean come on- people here get disgusted when bands emulate the 70s, and now people want Yes- with a new lead singer, no less- to "return" to CTTE or Relayer in 2011.
Get over it, I say, and enjoy the music on its own terms.
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Absolutely. The bizarre thing is that some of the people harking back to these days also profess a hatred of neo-prog for being exactly that.
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 12:10 |
Epignosis wrote:
DavetheSlave wrote:
However it isn't really comparible to the Relayer, CTTE era of Yes - anyone expecting a return to those heights will be sorely disappointed.
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Has anybody ever reasonably thought Yes would return to 1972 since Tormato? If Yes hasn't done so yet, why would anyone think they would now?
I mean come on- people here get disgusted when bands emulate the 70s, and now people want Yes- with a new lead singer, no less- to "return" to CTTE or Relayer in 2011.
Get over it, I say, and enjoy the music on its own terms.
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I have the same reaction when people are disappointed the new Rush album doesn't sound like A Farewell to Kings. I mean, really?
Edited by Padraic - June 29 2011 at 12:10
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 10:49 |
I'm enjoying Make A Rising's free EP a lot.
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 09:55 |
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Some of the best releases this year have been post-rock despite a quiet year from that sub genre last year, Mogwai and This Will Destroy you both dished out great records.
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 06:46 |
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Neal Morse-Testimony 2 and Snowtorch -Phideaux excellent albums for me nevertheless I have a little disappointing
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 06:35 |
Best release of the year hasn´t been a prog one for me. I think Fleet Foxes really outdid themselves with Helplessness Blues. But.... the year isn´t over and I am personally looking forward to the new Future Kings of England album and am a bit curious about the new Opeth. I think they´ve milked the growling tech metal vache for all its got - so this will be interesting.
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 05:39 |
DavetheSlave wrote:
However it isn't really comparible to the Relayer, CTTE era of Yes - anyone expecting a return to those heights will be sorely disappointed.
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Has anybody ever reasonably thought Yes would return to 1972 since Tormato? If Yes hasn't done so yet, why would anyone think they would now?
I mean come on- people here get disgusted when bands emulate the 70s, and now people want Yes- with a new lead singer, no less- to "return" to CTTE or Relayer in 2011.
Get over it, I say, and enjoy the music on its own terms.
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Posted: June 29 2011 at 02:26 |
My first thoughts of the new Yes album are that it's a pity that it was released under the Yes banner as I think that it has some very stiff competition under that name album wise and that it's going to be listened to and compared as such.
I think that it's good - way better than any of the "Rabin" era stuff that they did. I also think, personally, that it's better than the Drama album. However it isn't really comparible to the Relayer, CTTE era of Yes - anyone expecting a return to those heights will be sorely disappointed.
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 20:19 |
desistindo wrote:
verslibre wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
What about Yes & "Fly From Here"? I've read PA reviews posted, but I get tired of the "Drama, Part 2" theme over & over.
I haven't heard the entire disc yet, and the samples aren't BAD...however, Howe and Squire really sound mixed down to near irrelevance.
I wasn't much of a Drama fan anyway, will FFH make 2011 a success, or just "meh"? |
I listened to the entirety of Fly From Here, and rather than Drama II, the feeling I got was Asia with Squire and Benoit David replacing Wetton. And you are correct about Howe and Squire. Howe's guitar sounds borderline neutered, and while you can hear Squire's bass, it isn't prominent enough. Too bad because he does have some good basslines (and some ordinary ones).
The material after the title epic is lighter, softer. "Hour Of Need" is very sedate and what might have been a nice Moog synthesizer solo by Oliver Wakeman is mixed so that it sounds irrelevant. The last track is called "Into The Storm" and I felt it may be the best song on the album. While I do consider Fly From Here much better than something like Talk, it's still a bit underwhelming. |
Was the album officially released??
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I believe it is already released in Japan, and due for release in the USA on July 12. Apparently there are numerous tracks circulating online, I'm just too lazy to look for them.
YouTube clips have apparently been yanked quickly when posted, Lord Squire must have a rather evil barrister on retainer!!
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 16:25 |
verslibre wrote:
cstack3 wrote:
What about Yes & "Fly From Here"? I've read PA reviews posted, but I get tired of the "Drama, Part 2" theme over & over.
I haven't heard the entire disc yet, and the samples aren't BAD...however, Howe and Squire really sound mixed down to near irrelevance.
I wasn't much of a Drama fan anyway, will FFH make 2011 a success, or just "meh"? |
I listened to the entirety of Fly From Here, and rather than Drama II, the feeling I got was Asia with Squire and Benoit David replacing Wetton. And you are correct about Howe and Squire. Howe's guitar sounds borderline neutered, and while you can hear Squire's bass, it isn't prominent enough. Too bad because he does have some good basslines (and some ordinary ones).
The material after the title epic is lighter, softer. "Hour Of Need" is very sedate and what might have been a nice Moog synthesizer solo by Oliver Wakeman is mixed so that it sounds irrelevant. The last track is called "Into The Storm" and I felt it may be the best song on the album. While I do consider Fly From Here much better than something like Talk, it's still a bit underwhelming. |
Was the album officially released??
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 16:02 |
cstack3 wrote:
What about Yes & "Fly From Here"? I've read PA reviews posted, but I get tired of the "Drama, Part 2" theme over & over.
I haven't heard the entire disc yet, and the samples aren't BAD...however, Howe and Squire really sound mixed down to near irrelevance.
I wasn't much of a Drama fan anyway, will FFH make 2011 a success, or just "meh"? |
I listened to the entirety of Fly From Here, and rather than Drama II, the feeling I got was Asia with Squire and Benoit David replacing Wetton. And you are correct about Howe and Squire. Howe's guitar sounds borderline neutered, and while you can hear Squire's bass, it isn't prominent enough. Too bad because he does have some good basslines (and some ordinary ones).
The material after the title epic is lighter, softer. "Hour Of Need" is very sedate and what might have been a nice Moog synthesizer solo by Oliver Wakeman is mixed so that it sounds irrelevant. The last track is called "Into The Storm" and I felt it may be the best song on the album. While I do consider Fly From Here much better than something like Talk, it's still a bit underwhelming.
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 11:56 |
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This has been a good year for cheesy comfort food dad-prog-rock but there hasn't been much challenging or genuinely progressive stuff that I've come across. Well there is that new Unexpect which is probably not exactly the sort of uber-cornball music that Neal Morse and the like are making, but I didn't really enjoy In A Flesh Aquarium so I'm hesitant to hop on board. I'm sticking with Tuneyards. |
The new Unexpect is definitely better than the mess that was Flesh Aquarium.
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Posted: June 28 2011 at 11:46 |
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Don't worry guys: Big Big Train and Karmakanic will make 2011 a year to remember. |
Isn't English Electric not supposed to come out until 2012?
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