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Posted: June 23 2005 at 21:26

Average. Has its good points and its bad.

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Posted: June 23 2005 at 14:11

I hated it! The only song I liked on that album was Deep In The Motherlode. Steve Hackett's absense struck like a punch in the face. It's bad enough putting up with Collins ghastly voice which I find extremely annoying, but hardly any guitar? Unforgiveable!

This was the album that turned me off Genesis completely. I heard the following albums because a couple of my friends bought them, but I never liked Genesis from this album onwards. But when Ray Wilson joined I was so glad especially as he sounds like Gabriel. Mike's guitar playing had improved a lot as well, so Calling All Stations was good, but not as good as their 70's stuff.
If Genesis ever reformed, I hope it has the classic line-up with Gabriel & Hackett, with Collins doing what he does best - playing the drums! I see they DID get together to record a new version of the Carpet Crawlers 5 years ago and that sounded great!

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Posted: June 23 2005 at 06:18

I love it! A real killer album!

Well, thats probably an exageration, but I do like it a lot. I fully understand why some fans hate it. There is a gulf of difference between WAW and ATTWT, the former being a prog rock album and the latter representing the start of the decline into commercialism.

However, I think there are some brilliant songs on there: Down & Out, Undertow, Burning Rope, Deep in the Motherlode, Say it's alright Joe, The Lady Lies the remaining three do let it down.

Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!

kirklott

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Posted: June 22 2005 at 21:10

This is a great poll.

Genesis was killed not by Hackett's departure, but rather by a weird paradigm shift that happened immediately after And Then Were Three...

Duke sucked. Duke sucked Donkey eggs. I mean, the single "Misunderstanding" HUMILIATED every Genesis fan (did you ever see the video? Hawaiian shirts in a covertible?).

So let's clear up some confusion here: a lot of long-time Genesis fans feel Genesis fell apart when Steve Hackett left the band prior to "And Then There Were Three."

This isn't true, and this album is very, very good, with great writing and production, and a progressive sound. Genesis' fall from grace was caused not by personnel changes, but rather by attitude changes immediately after this album.

This album is, in many ways, as good as its predecessor, "Wind and Wuthering." The album opens with a bang: "Down and Out" is pedal-to-the-metal prog, with huge organ riffs and wild time signatures. "Burning Rope" is a classic mini-epic with inspiring, if not slightly cliché, lyrics. "The Lady Lies" is a great effort at spinning a classic Genesis medieval tale. "Undertow" and "Snowbound" are pleasant ballads. Even the hit single "Follow You Follow Me", which cynics have criticized, has a very pleasant vibe (and is infinitely superior to Wind and Wurthering's awful ballad, "You Have Your Own Special Way.")

This is the last good Genesis album. And then there were none...

"Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin

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Posted: June 22 2005 at 17:38

pretty good, suffers from mushy production

I Love Deep in the Motherlode (I'm an American History buff, so.....)

It gets stuck between 2 genesis greats, W&W and Duke.

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Posted: June 22 2005 at 12:53

excellent atmospheric album

[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>

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Posted: June 22 2005 at 10:30

Trick of the Tail just about hacked it (pun) - then they were off to join the bleedin' choir invisible

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Posted: June 22 2005 at 10:17

It was after listening to this album that I decided Genesis were dead for me.

BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.

Andhi

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Posted: June 22 2005 at 06:29

And Then There Were Three is new Genesis (obviously) and I prefer newer new Genesis to that. ... But it's not too bad.

It's only knock and knowall, but I like it...

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Posted: June 22 2005 at 05:58

Okayyyyyyy, here is a shibbolet I guess: Genesis masterpiece (or is it?) And Then There were Three? Do you like it, of do you think it's the end of western civilisation in general, and good prog in particular, as we know it?

Me and some of my friends, we wondered that most of us became prog fans once we heard this album. So I voted the last option.

Poll Question: How about And Then There Were Three?
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
I hate it! Why did they record it?	11	[17.19%]
It’s not too good or bad	33	[51.56%]
I love it! A real killer album	20	[31.25%]
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Man With Hat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Collaborator Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team Joined: March 12 2005 Location: Neurotica Status: Offline Points: 166183	Posted: June 23 2005 at 21:26
	Average. Has its good points and its bad.
	Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.

Captain Squib Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: June 17 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 36	Posted: June 23 2005 at 14:11
	I hated it! The only song I liked on that album was Deep In The Motherlode. Steve Hackett's absense struck like a punch in the face. It's bad enough putting up with Collins ghastly voice which I find extremely annoying, but hardly any guitar? Unforgiveable! This was the album that turned me off Genesis completely. I heard the following albums because a couple of my friends bought them, but I never liked Genesis from this album onwards. But when Ray Wilson joined I was so glad especially as he sounds like Gabriel. Mike's guitar playing had improved a lot as well, so Calling All Stations was good, but not as good as their 70's stuff. If Genesis ever reformed, I hope it has the classic line-up with Gabriel & Hackett, with Collins doing what he does best - playing the drums! I see they DID get together to record a new version of the Carpet Crawlers 5 years ago and that sounded great!
	He who stands on toilet must be high on pot!

Blacksword Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130	Posted: June 23 2005 at 06:18
	I love it! A real killer album! Well, thats probably an exageration, but I do like it a lot. I fully understand why some fans hate it. There is a gulf of difference between WAW and ATTWT, the former being a prog rock album and the latter representing the start of the decline into commercialism. However, I think there are some brilliant songs on there: Down & Out, Undertow, Burning Rope, Deep in the Motherlode, Say it's alright Joe, The Lady Lies the remaining three do let it down.
	Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!

kirklott Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: May 01 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 623	Posted: June 22 2005 at 21:10
	This is a great poll. Genesis was killed not by Hackett's departure, but rather by a weird paradigm shift that happened immediately after And Then Were Three... Duke sucked. Duke sucked Donkey eggs. I mean, the single "Misunderstanding" HUMILIATED every Genesis fan (did you ever see the video? Hawaiian shirts in a covertible?). So let's clear up some confusion here: a lot of long-time Genesis fans feel Genesis fell apart when Steve Hackett left the band prior to "And Then There Were Three." This isn't true, and this album is very, very good, with great writing and production, and a progressive sound. Genesis' fall from grace was caused not by personnel changes, but rather by attitude changes immediately after this album. This album is, in many ways, as good as its predecessor, "Wind and Wuthering." The album opens with a bang: "Down and Out" is pedal-to-the-metal prog, with huge organ riffs and wild time signatures. "Burning Rope" is a classic mini-epic with inspiring, if not slightly cliché, lyrics. "The Lady Lies" is a great effort at spinning a classic Genesis medieval tale. "Undertow" and "Snowbound" are pleasant ballads. Even the hit single "Follow You Follow Me", which cynics have criticized, has a very pleasant vibe (and is infinitely superior to Wind and Wurthering's awful ballad, "You Have Your Own Special Way.") This is the last good Genesis album. And then there were none...
	"Progressive rock is the key to the continuance of human evolution." - Charles Darwin

NetsNJFan Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: April 12 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3047	Posted: June 22 2005 at 17:38
	pretty good, suffers from mushy production I Love Deep in the Motherlode (I'm an American History buff, so.....) It gets stuck between 2 genesis greats, W&W and Duke.


greenback Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 14 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3300	Posted: June 22 2005 at 12:53
	excellent atmospheric album
	[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>

symphomaniac Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Newbie Joined: June 06 2005 Status: Offline Points: 13	Posted: June 22 2005 at 10:30
	Trick of the Tail just about hacked it (pun) - then they were off to join the bleedin' choir invisible

BaldFriede Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266	Posted: June 22 2005 at 10:17
	It was after listening to this album that I decided Genesis were dead for me.
	BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.

Andhi Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Forum Senior Member Joined: April 20 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 198	Posted: June 22 2005 at 06:29
	And Then There Were Three is new Genesis (obviously) and I prefer newer new Genesis to that. ... But it's not too bad.
	It's only knock and knowall, but I like it...

Moogtron III Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Reviewer page Prog Reviewer Joined: April 26 2005 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 10616	Posted: June 22 2005 at 05:58
	Okayyyyyyy, here is a shibbolet I guess: Genesis masterpiece (or is it?) And Then There were Three? Do you like it, of do you think it's the end of western civilisation in general, and good prog in particular, as we know it? Me and some of my friends, we wondered that most of us became prog fans once we heard this album. So I voted the last option.