Collaborators' Top Albums List - 2010

CCVP wrote: Tu ar trebui să ardă în iad pentru acest.

LOL & LOL@translator

CCVP wrote:   Also, yeah, but > 9000% of the collabs drop by the shred. And having ~20 people on the avant teams doens't help at all with the charts being completelly distorted from the general view.

There were only 8 votes from current or former ZART members, so that doesn't explain the predominance of avant-prog albums in the list as much as the really bad year other genres had does. (EDIT: and for comparison, there were 13 votes from former and current members of the PMT )

Even if what you said was 100% accurate, I still wouldn't see this as distortion, but as the intended diversity provided in relation with the general charts.

^ Honestly I haven't heard it yet. 

There is a den of the avant-hipsters which we call the Shred, but the majority here is largely into classic prog, retro-symph, classic prog-metal, etc. Which explains the more and more wide gap between the Collabs' Lists and the general chart. 

I'm looking on the "wayback machine" and in December 2006 Dowsing Anemone was on #68 in the 2006 chart so I don't think there was much of a backlash against them . I guess that will remain the Collab's choice the farthest away from the general tastes... Magma and UZ's albums were both in the top 10 when they won their lists. 

Oh hey, this is embarrassing, I didn't even notice this thread until just now. With all the time I am here I was expecting when I read the thread to find a post that I had made at 4am some day and completely forgotten about. 

I did not realize people had moved on from Watershed, it's only 43 on the 2008 list. That's not as much of a backlash as bumping Dowsing Anemone down to 94 for 2006, but still. The forum people are much more avant than the general casual reviewing population, so I can explain Dowsing, E-Re, and Clivages, but I can't explain Watershed. Maybe E-Re was able to stay in the top 5 of 2009 because Max never got around to putting up the collabs' choice banner so people didn't feel the need to review it in retaliation. ;-)

Sorry for the late response.
Alex, you did one heck of a job here! It's really an honor to share the same first name with you.
I would also like to thank you (and SaltyJon) for featuring my quote. I actully had to go back to my review and re-read it in order to believe that I really wrote those words!

A belated thankyou for your hard work - nice to see 3 of my choices in the top 10, and my number 1 is the top album for the 2nd year running (unlikely that I'll make it 3 in a row, though).

Mellotron Storm wrote: I think RPI should be seperate just like Krautrcok is seperate even though it's really German underground music.Both are unique in their own ways.There is a "sound" from each that stands out in my opinion from other genres.

Great list, thank you for your efforts.

Finnforest wrote: CCVP wrote: harmonium.ro wrote: So basically we've got four main genres in the top: avant-prog, metal, fusion and RPI. What happened with the other genres? Anyone wants to comment on that? I know Haken is in Heavy and Zeuhl is sepparated from RIO/Avant, but let's not think of that for a while. Mind you Alex, RPI is pretty much a non-genre. I have never understood the reason why the italian bands need to be separeted from the other symphonic bands. Hell, most of the big Brazilian progressive rock bands (as well as bands from the rest of South /Latin America) were much more unique, distinct and downright inovative than most of the Italians, besides having a own unique sound, quality or characteristic that could unite them in one single vein/style, which is the only reason why the Italian bands are separated.  Wow, I guess the former and past team members have really been wasting our time in ignorance.  Thanks for letting us know.

Nothing against you and the guys from the RPI Jim, it is just that this is one of those political decisions / collective decision I just don't agree. Every single important country for prog and every other music genre have their own scenes and I find in no way necessary to separate Italy from, say, France or UK or Yugoslavia or Polad / Czechoslovakia, etc, etc.

That surprised me too. I love Watershed but it was my second Opeth album after Damnation. I recently went back to it after reviewing Blackwater Park...it's definitely a more prog album. I personally think the best songs (Lotus Eaters and Hessian Peel, the juxtaposition of Coil / Heir Apparent) really are among the best things Opeth has done, and definitely a stronger album than BWP.