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Snow Dog
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 10:08 |
Finnforest wrote:
. Drive by clappies ] |
Edited by Snow Dog - February 06 2011 at 10:09
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 09:47 |
NotAProghead wrote:
^ Initial suggestion was only "Thanks" button and the number of thanks, no place for negative reactions.
Jim, you've written lots of reviews. Aren't you curious do people like them and which ones? No.
About PMs. Only few people bother to write PMs while clicking the button is a simple way to say "Good job, buddy". Only a few people bother, but it is that "bothering" and the personal nature of it that makes it valuable. Drive by clappies or disses mean nothing to me as a reviewer, again, I think its a popularity thing based more on what the readers would think of the A)band and B) agreement with reviewer opinion, not quality.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 09:39 |
^ Initial suggestion was only "Thanks" button and the number of thanks, no place for negative reactions.
Jim, you've written lots of reviews. Aren't you curious do people like them and which ones?
About PMs. Only few people bother to write PMs while clicking the button is a simple way to say "Good job, buddy".
Edited by NotAProghead - February 06 2011 at 09:40
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 09:08 |
I find the entire premise of rating reviews pointless. I think too many people on Amazon simply grade the writer's opinion, not their quality of writing/reviewing. If they agree The Wall is awesome, they'll vote positively, and if they disagree with even a well written opposing view, they'll vote negative accordingly. I never use these "stats" to decide if I wish to read someone's reviews, and I find the little "scores" above each review irritating.
And in a place like this where people know some of the people behind the reviews, I can see it becoming a popularity contest or a situation where people go after reviewers who don't share their taste, just like they go after bands they seek to "lower" in ratings by giving one star reviews to Haken or whatever. I can see a person who hates Kayo Dot just clicking the negative button any time they see a Coyote review on the main page.
I think this stuff is really silly and degrades, I hope Max sticks with his method of allowing people to send easy PMs to reviewers they feel compelled to comment on.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 08:47 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I was thinking it could be used if, maybe, you bought the CD on the strength of a review and enjoyed it, then you would click on the "was it helpful!" button. |
Not necessarily only in this case. You can own an album but find in reviews some new things about it.
And I think it's worth to show in the list of rat race leaders most prolific reviewers the number of 'thanked' reviews too, something like this: 1. The Coolest Reviewer (10 599) (666)
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 05:23 |
I 'm one who will send a private message to someone who does a particularly good review of something I already know or if I get something I really like based on their review. I'd also like to add that I've had some good personal recommendations from folks on this site and have liked everything I've tried.
Edited by Slartibartfast - February 06 2011 at 10:14
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Snow Dog
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 05:19 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I think I would prefer something like "Was this review helpful" like they have on some sites. Thank you seems a bit twee and non professional to me. |
Yeah, I agree on the terminology. The problem, though, is if we have positive and negative possibilities, which is how the "Was this helpful?" system is set up, it would open an entire new avenue of abuse that someone here will have to waste time on. I think that would be less of a problem in the purely positive system that NAP is describing. However, user feedback is usually to separate and hide the waste of time crap from the decent stuff, so other people saying this review is really good doesn't really help you because you've already read it. |
I was thinking it could be used if, maybe, you bought the CD on the strength of a review and enjoyed it, then you would click on the "was it helpful!" button. But I must admit on reflection that it is more probably useful for a site that actually sells CD's or downloads.
So I withdraw my suggestion.
I still don't like "Thank You" too much though.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 05:06 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I think I would prefer something like "Was this review helpful" like they have on some sites. Thank you seems a bit twee and non professional to me. |
Yeah, I agree on the terminology. The problem, though, is if we have positive and negative possibilities, which is how the "Was this helpful?" system is set up, it would open an entire new avenue of abuse that someone here will have to waste time on. I think that would be less of a problem in the purely positive system that NAP is describing. However, user feedback is usually to separate and hide the waste of time crap from the decent stuff, so other people saying this review is really good doesn't really help you because you've already read it.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Snow Dog
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 04:35 |
I think I would prefer something like "Was this review helpful" like they have on some sites. Thank you seems a bit twee and non professional to me.
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 04:06 |
Catcher10 wrote:
I will send a PM to the reviewer if I think they did a good job. |
exactly...
I get a few of those every month
Actually since fairly recently, there is "feature button" at the bottom of the review that as soon as you click it, you have a PM with the review at hand in the subject... you can make a love or hate mail.... fortunately I get a lot of love mails
Other "visible for everyone" options in the style "I like" or little hearts or hates will transform these reviews into popularity polls and will get abused of by fanboys and rating skewers
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Tapfret
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Posted: February 06 2011 at 00:25 |
Like say for instance, this idea/thread would get a "thank you". Thank you.
Great idea! A wonderful positive little addition and a way to give weight to good reviewers. I wonder how difficult the code would be to add. Amazon uses something along these lines for user product reviews.
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The Truth
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Posted: February 05 2011 at 23:02 |
I like this idea, I'm always looking for feedback on my reviews and rarely get it.
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Theriver
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Posted: February 05 2011 at 22:09 |
A thanks button would be a good idea. A quick and simple way to show we liked the review. It will a bit like the a "I like" option on Facebook.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: February 05 2011 at 20:51 |
Do you think many do it too? For example, I only send comments when I see something wrong.
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Catcher10
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Posted: February 05 2011 at 20:45 |
I will send a PM to the reviewer if I think they did a good job.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: February 05 2011 at 20:42 |
It seems it was not discussed yet. I saw such feature in other forums.
Many of us write reviews, but in most cases we don't know are they helpful for site visitors or no. There are only options "Send comments" and "Report this review". I propose to add 2 more options to each review, something like this:
Thus every site visitor (perhaps it's worth to give this possibility to unregistered members too) can thank the author for good or helpful review. Clicking on "Thanks received" should open the list of grateful users.
In my opinion it is a simple and good form of feedback from readers to writers.
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