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Posted: January 17 2011 at 17:53
I kind of agree with the post above, there's nothing wrong in adding your own feel to stuff, I do it all the time. I never practice either as it happens, and i've never had any lessons. I guess it depends on what level you wanna be at. Tony C.
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Posted: January 17 2011 at 16:14
Hi,
I'm the world's worst bass player, and on top of it, I refuse to practice, and I am still playing it, and I don't care what anyone says or thinks.
But there is something that I can do ... that many can't ... and I was playing with an instructor one time, and I did the homework ... and when it came around to the end, I adjusted it to my feel and ending ... and he said ... wow, that was nice ... how did you do that? ...
I'll tell you what I did ... I played it through and practiced it, and it sounded dry and tuneless and boring, and I did not want to do another Chuck Berry song again. So, in the middle of it, I shut off everything and just followed MY OWN MUSE ... and the notes ... completely away from any lyrics and conceptualization ... and when I flowed on it, the song wanted to end this way ... not that ... and I did ... and he still says, that I am the only student he ever had that could color and adjust and add something to anything that was already there. And I did it more than once, and many times even in the middle of things, not just in the end. Or the start, many times of which I liked to adjust to help the music get stronger.
The issue, FOR ME, is this ... you have to tell the notes to get lost and screw them! ... and you have to learn, and teach yourself to "FEEL" the notes and their vibration through your fingers and then arm, and such ... and the minute you do, you will be a very good bass player ... since a band will immediately want to use that ability to help them color their own material ... BUT, if you are playing the Red Lion circuit ... yeah ... leave quickly, because your "moments" will never be heard, or appreciated.
Too many people think that it is just about the mechanics and the notes ... it's not! ... it's about YOU ... and the sooner you know that and learn that, the better ... all else is not important ...
But you have a decision to make, specially now that you read this ... it will show up and come to you ... put your money on it ... and you will know what you want to do that very minute ... and either go for it, or quit -- because playing a bass, or anything else ... just got really boring and not worth it!
Edited by moshkito - January 17 2011 at 16:20
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Posted: December 18 2010 at 22:41
Slartibartfast wrote:
Come on people. His teacher has likely heard scales so many times to be bored to tears with them. Pick your strings with your teeth and then set your bass on fire.
It's weird, but when I recommend improv, no one joins in with me on it. Scales are for fish...
Hey i'm with you :)
hey, you could learn the modes of each major scale! that helps with improv...
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Posted: December 15 2010 at 18:28
thellama73 wrote:
I teach piano lessons to kids and you know what really impresses me? When they listen to me and practice what I ask them to practice. I am not impressed by them trying to show off songs that they claim to have written or improvising when I am trying to talk.
As far as musicianship goes though, the best way to learn is to imitate others. Put on some records with prominent bass parts and try to learn the lines by ear. Then improvise over some chord changes. That is how you learn your instrument inside out, by constantly playing it and trying to discover new things.
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Posted: December 15 2010 at 04:39
thellama73 wrote:
I teach piano lessons to kids and you know what really impresses me? When they listen to me and practice what I ask them to practice. I am not impressed by them trying to show off songs that they claim to have written or improvising when I am trying to talk.
As far as musicianship goes though, the best way to learn is to imitate others. Put on some records with prominent bass parts and try to learn the lines by ear. Then improvise over some chord changes. That is how you learn your instrument inside out, by constantly playing it and trying to discover new things.
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted: December 14 2010 at 21:50
Coming from someone who takes music lessons (for drums, though not bass, but I feel I can still give some advice), I would say to try not to impress your teacher so much. Just listen to him or her and soak whatever they say in. Try to gain as much knowledge as you can and try to practice as much as you can. It would also help to listen to a lot of bass-heavy work (always go with Jaco Pastorius, and some Victor Wooten and Larry Graham wouldn't hurt either) to try to gain some influence and inspiration.
Bottom line: listen to what your teacher says, study hard, and try to do some extra work. Also, it wouldn't hurt to learn a thing or two about music theory. That is all...
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Posted: December 14 2010 at 21:50
I teach piano lessons to kids and you know what really impresses me? When they listen to me and practice what I ask them to practice. I am not impressed by them trying to show off songs that they claim to have written or improvising when I am trying to talk.
As far as musicianship goes though, the best way to learn is to imitate others. Put on some records with prominent bass parts and try to learn the lines by ear. Then improvise over some chord changes. That is how you learn your instrument inside out, by constantly playing it and trying to discover new things.
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Posted: December 14 2010 at 21:21
Proletariat wrote:
Triceratopsoil wrote:
another thing, don't slap or pop your strings
Ignore this, there are many techiques that can get a veriety of different timbres out of the bass guitar. Employ as many of these techniques that you enjoy and feel compfortable with.
Thats like saying don't play picked guitar or don't tap. Stylistic choices can be employed to the advantage of the player and each player should find their own blend of sounds.
Larry Graham disagrees with not slapping or popping your strings.
Thats feel
Which of you to gain me, tell, will risk uncertain pains of hell?
I will not forgive you if you will not take the chance.
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Posted: December 14 2010 at 17:49
Triceratopsoil wrote:
another thing, don't slap or pop your strings
Ignore this, there are many techiques that can get a veriety of different timbres out of the bass guitar. Employ as many of these techniques that you enjoy and feel compfortable with.
Thats like saying don't play picked guitar or don't tap. Stylistic choices can be employed to the advantage of the player and each player should find their own blend of sounds.
who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob
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Posted: December 14 2010 at 15:45
Come on people. His teacher has likely heard scales so many times to be bored to tears with them. Pick your strings with your teeth and then set your bass on fire.
It's weird, but when I recommend improv, no one joins in with me on it. Scales are for fish...
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
I these days i am learning how to play Bass guitar so i
need some good tips to impress my music teacher. If someone knows that
please share with me.
First,
don't try to impress your teacher. Practice what you are taught at
least 30 minutes each day. Learn all the notes of the fretboard and
how they interact (i.e., learn scales). Practice with all different
kinds of music because the skills in various genres can carry over into
one another.
That just about says it. I've never taken any lessons or anything (and it shows ),
but I'd imagine the best way to impress your teacher is through a
willingness to learn and be open to exploring new avenues of music.
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Posted: December 14 2010 at 12:57
Epignosis wrote:
janealex wrote:
I these days i am learning how to play Bass guitar so i need some good tips to impress my music teacher. If someone knows that please share with me.
First, don't try to impress your teacher. Practice what you are taught at least 30 minutes each day. Learn all the notes of the fretboard and how they interact (i.e., learn scales). Practice with all different kinds of music because the skills in various genres can carry over into one another.
This, plus improvise a bit, play around with the instrument and try to "make it your own". Most of all...enjoy whatever you do end up playing, since it's such an excellent instrument.
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Posted: December 14 2010 at 09:25
Learn some theory (if you haven't already) about root notes, intervals like 3rd and 5th, and the role the bass guitar plays in a band or ensemble. Then simply apply it to the fretboard.
Applying it is the hardest part!
Practise something until you know it, then practise doing it with your eyes closed, then at double speed, etc........ so that you always have something to improve upon.
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Slartibartfast wrote:
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but I'd imagine the best way to impress your teacher is through a
willingness to learn and be open to exploring new avenues of music.
