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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 12:22
I have faith that there will be more breakthroughs in music...  I don't think that all that can be explored has been explored...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 12:15
Yeah but look, what about stuff like "7th son...", "Somewhere in Time"  or "Brave New World"? I woulden't get to know them
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 12:13
Previous 100 years. There's so much stuff I love from the past 100 years. Hell, I'd be happy wiht just all of Porcupine Tree, YES, King Crimson, Opeth, Pain of Salvation and Dream Theater work. I'd end up expanding of course though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:31

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

Did Maiden retire?  Dance Of Death was good, despite the bad cover.  

Maiden won't retire until they look like Eddy.

 

Which shouldn't be long now...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:29
Did Maiden retire?  Dance Of Death was good, despite the bad cover.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:13
Originally posted by Manunkind Manunkind wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I'm gonna live dangerous and go B!................Hey what happened to the stereo!

I'm choosing A but PLEASE, PLEASE make the cut-off tomorrow (or Tuesday, to be on the safe side) - Monday's the official release day of "Octavarium"!

It would probably take me 100 years to earn enough money to buy or to otherwise get all the music I'd want to hear anyway... 

WORD. I'd choose B (starting from today), soI'd get Octavarium and the other DT stuff. But then i'd never hear Maiden... ehmmm.... This is a really hard one....

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:00
Originally posted by greenback greenback wrote:

choice B is for teenagers

choose Jethro Tull "A"



1969:  Prog rock is for teenagers!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:54
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

After much debate, and it absolutely kills me to do this...

I'm going to have to choose B.  Our progressive pioneers certainly "chose B" in their own way.

Now don't get me wrong, I love the early progressive rock more than anything else, but...

The music that interests me the most comes from the past 40 years.  The previous 60 gave me little to love, except jazz.  However, I'm willing to risk it all to see what's coming in the next 100.  Considering even the "new" prog bands are either peaked or close to peaking, I'd be losing that just as much as I'd be losing King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and other favorites.  But..  who knows what's to come? 


There is a logical mistake in your argument which I'd like to point out. Without any prior knowledge of earlier music it is higly unlikely you would love the music of the future. A musical taste is acquired over the years. You just don't get thrown into the world and say: "Ok, I like neo-prog". It is simply impossible.

There is a logical mistake in your argument there baldJean

 

You would have 100 years to acquire a taste in music



But would the music be prog then? Could you like prog at all without any knowledge of any of its influences? And, what's more, wouldn't it be a rather dull choice to vote for prog only?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:47
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

But I don't want to live for another 100 years, oh the agony of having to deal with this earthly hell for another 100 years

 

But if the choise have to be made I'd choose the latter. All new music, I also like to live dangerously

Hey Tuxon.. its only an earthly hell because you live in an overpopulated little country, where there are no hills, all the cheese is tasteless and you allow your kids to put little chocolate 'hundreds and thousands' on their bread at breakfast time.

Escape now while you are still young and emigrate to Belgium!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:39

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

I'm gonna live dangerous and go B!................Hey what happened to the stereo!

I'm choosing A but PLEASE, PLEASE make the cut-off tomorrow (or Tuesday, to be on the safe side) - Monday's the official release day of "Octavarium"!

It would probably take me 100 years to earn enough money to buy or to otherwise get all the music I'd want to hear anyway... 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:36

choice B is for teenagers

choose Jethro Tull "A"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:43
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

After much debate, and it absolutely kills me to do this...

I'm going to have to choose B.  Our progressive pioneers certainly "chose B" in their own way.

Now don't get me wrong, I love the early progressive rock more than anything else, but...

The music that interests me the most comes from the past 40 years.  The previous 60 gave me little to love, except jazz.  However, I'm willing to risk it all to see what's coming in the next 100.  Considering even the "new" prog bands are either peaked or close to peaking, I'd be losing that just as much as I'd be losing King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and other favorites.  But..  who knows what's to come? 


There is a logical mistake in your argument which I'd like to point out. Without any prior knowledge of earlier music it is higly unlikely you would love the music of the future. A musical taste is acquired over the years. You just don't get thrown into the world and say: "Ok, I like neo-prog". It is simply impossible.

There is a logical mistake in your argument there baldJean

 

You would have 100 years to acquire a taste in music



Quite true!  When Kansas opened the door to me, I was an innocent kid.  Hearing something like The Flower Kings would've surely done the same, as they have the same complex, experimental, symphonic elements that attracted me to Kansas in the first place. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:37

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

After much debate, and it absolutely kills me to do this...

I'm going to have to choose B.  Our progressive pioneers certainly "chose B" in their own way.

Now don't get me wrong, I love the early progressive rock more than anything else, but...

The music that interests me the most comes from the past 40 years.  The previous 60 gave me little to love, except jazz.  However, I'm willing to risk it all to see what's coming in the next 100.  Considering even the "new" prog bands are either peaked or close to peaking, I'd be losing that just as much as I'd be losing King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and other favorites.  But..  who knows what's to come? 


There is a logical mistake in your argument which I'd like to point out. Without any prior knowledge of earlier music it is higly unlikely you would love the music of the future. A musical taste is acquired over the years. You just don't get thrown into the world and say: "Ok, I like neo-prog". It is simply impossible.

There is a logical mistake in your argument there baldJean

 

You would have 100 years to acquire a taste in music

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:30
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

After much debate, and it absolutely kills me to do this...

I'm going to have to choose B.  Our progressive pioneers certainly "chose B" in their own way.

Now don't get me wrong, I love the early progressive rock more than anything else, but...

The music that interests me the most comes from the past 40 years.  The previous 60 gave me little to love, except jazz.  However, I'm willing to risk it all to see what's coming in the next 100.  Considering even the "new" prog bands are either peaked or close to peaking, I'd be losing that just as much as I'd be losing King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and other favorites.  But..  who knows what's to come? 


There is a logical mistake in your argument which I'd like to point out. Without any prior knowledge of earlier music it is higly unlikely you would love the music of the future. A musical taste is acquired over the years. You just don't get thrown into the world and say: "Ok, I like neo-prog". It is simply impossible.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:25

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:



b)  Listen ONLY to music made from now until 100 years in the future.  The start date is TODAY.  You will have no memory of previous music, only the music that exists from today, onward.

These choices only impact you.  Forthcoming artists will still be influenced by past artists and put out the music they'd put out anyway, should you choose the latter.

Can you decide?

Definitely b, because I'll get the past 100 years through their influence on the artists. I'm currently in a similar state as far as some 70s prog bands are concerned. I only listen to Yes, Genesis or Gentle Giant through bands like Spock's Beard, because I never find the time to listen to the classics.

It's a nice question, well done!

P.S.: Please don't use my Spock's Beard comment to start a 70s/90s war here, there's a whole Spock's Beard thread "next door".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:24

Originally posted by barbs barbs wrote:

I'd take the last 100. Even though I'd miss out on anything new (some people say there is nothing new under the sun anyway) I really believe that we have lived through the greatest changes we are going to see. So much music today is derivative and thats not to say that someone cannot be original, however it stands to reason that everyone does what Isaac Newton recognised in science and mathematics, when he said that 'if I have seen further it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants.' He was just recognising and respecting the work that had come before. The 'giants' of prog rock owe alot to the forefathers of their musical era as well. 

Anyway I would be happy to regurgitate an already abundant supply of music cause I like blues, jazz, symphprog, progmetal etc. Have you ever heard Aaron Neville sing Ave Maria. It is a sublime experience.  Anita Baker, Miles Davis, Mr John, john coltrane, sonny rollins. Everything from Yes, to Dead Soul Tribe. I love DT and PT stuff as well as Muse. So I am a happy camper right now. I think we have truly been blessed and yep a renaissance of sorts in the last ten years.

Besides, you never said anything about making your own music and I sing and play acc guitar and piano so, if I ever get bored with listening for awhile, I can do that.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:12

Originally posted by JCProg JCProg wrote:

Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

b)  Listen ONLY to music made from now until 100 years in the future.  The start date is TODAY.  You will have no memory of previous music, only the music that exists from today, onward.


If I have no memory of previous music, I can't really miss anything, can I? So, I choose B.

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I'd take the last 100. Even though I'd miss out on anything new (some people say there is nothing new under the sun anyway) I really believe that we have lived through the greatest changes we are going to see. So much music today is derivative and thats not to say that someone cannot be original, however it stands to reason that everyone does what Isaac Newton recognised in science and mathematics, when he said that 'if I have seen further it is because I have stood on the shoulders of giants.' He was just recognising and respecting the work that had come before. The 'giants' of prog rock owe alot to the forefathers of their musical era as well. 

Anyway I would be happy to regurgitate an already abundant supply of music cause I like blues, jazz, symphprog, progmetal etc. Have you ever heard Aaron Neville sing Ave Maria. It is a sublime experience.  Anita Baker, Miles Davis, Mr John, john coltrane, sonny rollins. Everything from Yes, to Dead Soul Tribe. I love DT and PT stuff as well as Muse. So I am a happy camper right now. I think we have truly been blessed and yep a renaissance of sorts in the last ten years.

Besides, you never said anything about making your own music and I sing and play acc guitar and piano so, if I ever get bored with listening for awhile, I can do that.  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:00
Originally posted by Man Overboard Man Overboard wrote:

b)  Listen ONLY to music made from now until 100 years in the future.  The start date is TODAY.  You will have no memory of previous music, only the music that exists from today, onward.


If I have no memory of previous music, I can't really miss anything, can I? So, I choose B.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2005 at 08:46
Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

Originally posted by Trouserpress Trouserpress wrote:

What I'd say is a far more interesting poser is:

A) Would you stick with buying music from the last 100 years and never have the option of buying ANY albums released after today.

or...

B) Would you keep what you have from the last 100 years and NEVER GET ANYTHING ELSE FROM THAT PERIOD, instead relying on new releases for all future music purchases.

Now that's a tough one.

I'm gonna surprise everyone here. I would go for option "B" in this case




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