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Bonnek
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 01 2009 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 4515 |
Posted: February 23 2011 at 04:54 | ||
For the record, I was only voicing my own opinion and I have no idea if there would be a consensus about this or what the admin team thinks of those headaches... I think I'll put this up for discussion some time but right now we have more urgent matters, frustrating as the situation may be. Edited by Bonnek - February 23 2011 at 11:14 |
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AtomicCrimsonRush
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 14258 |
Posted: February 22 2011 at 05:19 | ||
I mention this every year and havent done so in 2011 yet so here we go
*clears throat*
GARY NUMAN FOR PROG RELATED!
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Conor Fynes
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 11 2009 Location: Vancouver, CA Status: Offline Points: 3196 |
Posted: February 22 2011 at 00:12 | ||
Scott Walker, YES!!!
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Henry Plainview
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
Posted: February 21 2011 at 12:22 | ||
But not deleting them years ago is tacit approval by the administration, so it doesn't matter how they got here.
I don't care because I don't care about prog metal, but I hope you can see how frustrating this is to people who do care. I only learned of the Nightwish situation recently, but it is mindboggling (to me, anyway) that there are prog metal bands that the the Prog Metal Team (apparently) universally thinks should not be in prog metal. The headaches you have caused yourselves just to save a few reviews people wrote years ago, which they could repost at countless other websites if they didn't want their work to be "wasted"... Edited by Henry Plainview - February 21 2011 at 12:32 |
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Bonnek
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 01 2009 Location: Belgium Status: Offline Points: 4515 |
Posted: February 21 2011 at 08:57 | ||
As far as I can see, only Epika was voted on, and they got in by the smallest possible margin. The other bands were never voted on but were added when everybody could add bands. So they can't be used as a precedent and frankly I don't know who "all the others" are you refer to. If anyone tells me Within Temptation should be here because After Forever and Nightwish are, I'd simply answer none of that lot should be here. Edited by Bonnek - February 21 2011 at 08:58 |
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Evolver
Special Collaborator Crossover & JR/F/Canterbury Teams Joined: October 22 2005 Location: The Idiocracy Status: Offline Points: 5482 |
Posted: February 20 2011 at 08:11 | ||
You need to find a copy of "Punky's Whips" by Zappa.
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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AmericanProgster
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 28 2008 Location: Manassas, VA Status: Offline Points: 228 |
Posted: February 20 2011 at 05:00 | ||
Bump (just for the hell of it).
Another group that wasn't mentioned in this thread was Angel. They've been suggested more than 3 times (most of them by me, just see my sig). First two albums are great examples of when 70s hard rock/metal crossed over to prog. But alas, every single time their suggested they get shot down as a glam group. sigh the ignorance of it all! JK. Sorta... |
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FunkyM
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 12 2010 Location: Funkytown Status: Offline Points: 134 |
Posted: December 09 2010 at 17:55 | ||
Like I said last week, I'd say YES to Happy in a heartbeat. I think her work speaks for itself. She has connections to artists already in the archives and was influenced by artists in the archives. IMO, she would fit right in Crossover given what has been approved recently (and I say that positively) . :) As for Sarah, I'm familiar with most of her output, I'd guess that Solace or Touch would be the prime reasons she would be nominated. I've always thought that Touch sounded somewhat prog-influenced, but neither album is very close to crossing my prog threshold, or "phold", as I like to call it ;) Edited by FunkyM - December 09 2010 at 17:56 |
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thellama73
Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 29 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 8368 |
Posted: December 09 2010 at 12:28 | ||
Every couple of years I lobby to get Nurse With Wound on here. I think the main reason they're not is that no one (including me) wants to wrestle with their discography.
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Andy Webb
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: June 04 2010 Location: Terria Status: Offline Points: 13298 |
Posted: December 07 2010 at 15:53 | ||
Even in my short time here, I think ive seen stratovarious get suggested at least twice, and people have said they were before too!
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rushfan4
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2007 Location: Michigan, U.S. Status: Offline Points: 66331 |
Posted: December 07 2010 at 14:42 | ||
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AtomicCrimsonRush
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 02 2008 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 14258 |
Posted: December 07 2010 at 07:29 | ||
bump
its such a great thread it doesn't deserve to be buried 45 pages down in the bowels of obscurity
Helloween should be added to Prog Related
I had to say that cos it must be stated by someone every month.
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octopus-4
Special Collaborator RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams Joined: October 31 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 14191 |
Posted: July 30 2010 at 08:50 | ||
About SoAD, if for me you can write 10 . I'm the one who suggested Annie Haslam, but I was a newbie actually. I wouldn't suggest her now.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Textbook
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
Posted: July 14 2010 at 19:13 | ||
Well it's not an objective thing so you may well disagree. But I know some people here find Epika, Kamelot, Rhapsody Of Fire, Nightwish etc etc etc to not be progressive. But once one got let in, it seemed that all the others had to go in too.
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: July 14 2010 at 18:57 | ||
^ can you elaborate on the domino effect wrt to "the whole" power metal genre being here, because a) I don't think it did and b) it isn't.
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What?
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Textbook
Forum Senior Member Joined: October 08 2009 Status: Offline Points: 3281 |
Posted: July 14 2010 at 18:28 | ||
There certainly is a domino effect here. If you let a band that isn't all that prog in, it really does make it easier for other not-so-prog acts to slip in. I mean that's really how the whole power metal genre slipped in, on the "well if THAT is in, then THIS must be in" tip.
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: July 14 2010 at 17:54 | ||
Of Course...thats why the edges are blurred...its all about degrees....when does something "suddenly" become not prog?
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Marty McFly
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2009 Location: Czech Republic Status: Offline Points: 3968 |
Posted: July 14 2010 at 17:50 | ||
OK, I agree that it's still subjective. But isn't everything subjective ? Truth also isn't one, there are more truths. In fact, as much "truths" as human beings. And I'm not even talking about case when someone changes his mind. Then hell freezes over or something like that. :-D But some bands are more Prog than others, aren't they ? |
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless,"
-Andyman1125 on Lulu Even my |
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: July 14 2010 at 15:38 | ||
Me neither, but apparently that's how it works...
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Snow Dog
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 23 2005 Location: Caerdydd Status: Offline Points: 32995 |
Posted: July 14 2010 at 10:41 | ||
I don't see the connection between Dire Straits and The Police.
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