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mike hewetson 
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 Posted: June 15 2010 at 06:56 |
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hi, i recommend you get a copy of hemispheres,but as has been said,if you don"t get them,you probably won"t like hemispheres either! myself,i count it as one of my finest prog albums and they have never produced anything near it! but each to their own,we"ve all got our likes and dislikes.i actually stopped buying rush albums after grace under pressure,as their later work didn"t do it for me either! as i"m a musician myself,i understand the loss of ambition in writing capabilities when you get older! this is why so many top bands draw from their older songs when they play live-it"s often their best music.
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jplanet
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Posted: June 11 2010 at 11:04 |
 WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Fly by Night
2112
A Farewell to Kings
Signals
Presto
Roll the Bones
Test for Echo
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Having seen your taste form other threads, I would have never have recommended any of these to you. I consider myself a big Rush fan, but like none of these albums (except for some of AFtK). I believe that Exit...Stage Left is the best example of Rush in their "prog" prime, a live album with great energy and inspired performances - includes fantastic renditions of Villa Strangiato, Xanadu, Jacob's Ladder...if these don't strike you in any way, then I'd move on. Sometimes it means it's either just not your thing, and sometimes it means it's just not your thing right now. There are plenty of albums that I disliked at first, then revisited years later to find they were just what I was looking for (Miles Davis and King Crimson were like this for me)
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Mr. Maestro
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Posted: June 11 2010 at 10:14 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
I don't plan on spending on more Rush, though. The question is... what does it take to appreciate the stuff I've already got? |
Listen to "Xanadu." Then listen to "Xanadu" again. Then listen to it again. And again. And again. And...
If that doesn't make you like Rush, then you have my pity.
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 20:15 |
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Walter- Permanent Waves is the only Rush album I would ever intentionally listen to. Just sell all of yours and get that
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jammun
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 19:15 |
As I've recounted before, Rush is ironically how I found PA.
I actually did not like them when I first heard them (1979-80). They were in regular rotation on the AOR station here in Seattle. Then I eventually heard Limelight and bought Moving Pictures. As others have mentioned, it is a very good album, Geddy's voice -- which someone has described as Donald Duck on helium -- notwithstading.
That said, the tracks I heard from subsequent albums over the next 20 years didn't do much for me, though I started revisiting the band via the Retrospectives albums around five years ago. I subsequently bought Feedback and Snakes & Arrows, both of which are decent enough outings.
To my surprise Rush -- even the early tracks -- sound much better now that I'm well into my middle age. With all due respect to the band, who have progressed a long way from those early albums, I attribute this to three things: 1) my hearing ain't what it used to be; 2) Geddy's voice has calmed down a bit to my ears (see 1)); 3) they are still better that 90% of everything else that's out there.
I'm looking forward to their next studio album, but I'll be visiting PA looking for reviews before I buy it  |
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Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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richardh
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:49 |
Watching the Rush film the other day there were some very funny music critics desciptions of Geddy Lee's voice ,the best being 'like a cat being chased out of a room with a blow torch up its arse!!'
As a kid I was actually convinced that the lead singer was a woman and said as such to a keen Rush fan which didn't go down well.
Anwyay appreciating what you have? Convert every album into MP3 form and then play the tracks randomly mixed in with other bands you like. This worked for me in the case of Gentle Giant and Porcupine Tree. If not then just stop flogging a dead horse and get rid of them.
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rushfan4
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:37 |
Sorry. I hope that you had a spare pair with you.
I get the not liking Geddy's singing. It was certainly an acquired taste for me, and he hits some notes on those early albums that still make me cringe, but for the most part I grew used to them and actually like them. In regards to not liking Neil's lyrics I am sort of clueless there, as for the most part I love his lyrics, aside from the notorious Dog Years. So from that standpoint I can't help you. It does seem to me that songs like The Spirit of Radio and Freewill should appeal to you (both are on Permanent Waves) but what the hell do I know.
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:36 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
I like to finish the albums I choose to listen to.
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So you're listening to music that you don't enjoy to throw an insult at Rush fans? Your own loss 
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:28 |
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That's true. I do like Valley Girl.  |
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The Monodrone
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:24 |
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...Yeah, I would say get Moving Pictures. If you don't like anything from that, maybe you should stop listening to them, IMO.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:21 |
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I like to finish the albums I choose to listen to.
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:18 |
So if you don't like it, stop listening to it 
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:12 |
Visting AFTK. The music is good standard issue prog, nothing special. But my, the vocals 
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Vompatti
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:08 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Fly by Night
2112
A Farewell to Kings
Signals
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Roll the Bones
Test for Echo |
A Farewell to Kings is the only one of these I really like, and even that is not nearly as great as Permanent Waves, Hemispheres or Moving Pictures. So I guess you should either get more of their albums or stick to Crimson and Zappa.
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 15:07 |
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Stop spending money on them. I'm one of their biggest fans on the site, but if you don't get them - you don't get them. Simple enough. They're not avant like Zappa or evil like Crimson. Sounds like they're not your thing.
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rushfan4
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 14:42 |
That's true. I do like Valley Girl.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 14:39 |
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The thing is though, Zappa's work is different with every album. There's likely something for everyone in his discography.
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 14:39 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
I don't plan on spending on more Rush, though. The question is... what does it take to appreciate the stuff I've already got? |
Spending on more Rush. I'm afraid it's true. That three-album run from Hemispheres to Moving Pictures is definitive and somewhat mandatory for any Rush fan. I'd say you started in the wrong places.
EDIT: then again, if you truly did not like parts of AFTK, there may not be any help for you.
Edited by Tarquin Underspoon - June 10 2010 at 14:40
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"WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!"
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Catcher10
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 14:37 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Shrieking vocals, riffery, pounding drums... all tantamount to a sub-Led Zep, Rush has never done anything for me. Somehow or another, I've acquired seven albums by this band. Aside from the Police-tinged "Signals," none of them has struck me as even remotely remarkable. The less we say about the despicable philosophical basis for the lyrics, the better.
So here's what I've bought over the years:
Fly by Night
2112
A Farewell to Kings
Signals
Presto
Roll the Bones
Test for Echo
Now, will somebody propose a way to approach these in a manner that will keep me from yawning and switching to Zappa or Crimson?
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I can appreciate this post......cause I have no desire to own any Zappa at all. To your point Zappa ranks high on my list for the yawn factor.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 10 2010 at 13:53 |
Rush aren't that bad. They're not my personal preference for a band I'd like to hear more of but the two albums I've heard are not grating at all. I actually don't mind Geddy's voice now. They just don't make music that really does much for me, from what I've heard. So I'm not having a go at Rush, as Scott thought I would. 
Edited by James - June 10 2010 at 13:54
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