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King of Loss 
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 Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:35 |
 TheProgtologist wrote:
King of Loss wrote:
Hah, Tool is happy???? Well, I laugh at their lyrics and the band overall is a joke IMO. |
Wow king.I agree TOOL is not a happy band,and their lyrics are sorta out there.But the band overall is a joke?I am a veteran of many,many concerts and live TOOL is the best band I have ever seen.Hands down.Period.Everything perfect and flawless,they sound even better than they do on cd.And you seem to like good drummers(Portnoy,who I worship),you don't think Danny Carey is an incredible drummer?
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I like the band's talent, but Carey is IMO a huge waste of talent, just like Tool. I don't want to start a large argument here, because its not about Tool, its about recommending music to this dude. I'd not recommend Tool first of all because its so strange and its so inexcessible at first.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:28 |
King of Loss wrote:
Hah, Tool is happy???? Well, I laugh at their lyrics and the band overall is a joke IMO. |
Wow king.I agree TOOL is not a happy band,and their lyrics are sorta out there.But the band overall is a joke?I am a veteran of many,many concerts and live TOOL is the best band I have ever seen.Hands down.Period.Everything perfect and flawless,they sound even better than they do on cd.And you seem to like good drummers(Portnoy,who I worship),you don't think Danny Carey is an incredible drummer?
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Fantômas
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:25 |
illustrated wrote:
If you want to listen to something happy listen to Van der Graaf Generator/Peter Hammill.
or Mr. Bungle (Disco Volante). |
I'd indicate their first instead.
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And above all, is punk 
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illustrated
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:23 |
King of Loss wrote:
Hah, Tool is happy???? Well, I laugh at their lyrics and the band overall is a joke IMO. |
Hey, I actually like tool, I think they're really awesome.
[The lyrics aren't great for the most part, you're right, but the music/vocals are really great I think]
And no, Tool isn't happy, I wasn't being serious --- look at all the others I listed. 
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King of Loss
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:19 |
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Hah, Tool is happy???? Well, I laugh at their lyrics and the band overall is a joke IMO.
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illustrated
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:17 |
If you want to listen to something happy listen to Van der Graaf Generator/Peter Hammill.
or Mr. Bungle (Disco Volante).
..or... Tool (Lateralus/Aenima)
....or Amon Duul II (Phallus Dei, Yeti..?)
..Can, Ash Ra Tempel, Faust, Godspeed You Black Emperor!, Mars Volta, Tangerine Dream...
what else am I forgetting?
[hint: don't listen to these bands if you find Genesis depressing]
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Tommy
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:48 |
King of Loss wrote:
TransAtlantic is so awesome, those 20 minute+ tracks are some of the best epics I've heard. |
I agree, 'Stranger In Your Soul' is in my all time top 5
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King of Loss
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:46 |
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TransAtlantic is so awesome, those 20 minute+ tracks are some of the best epics I've heard.
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:33 |
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Also,I have made this suggestion before in another thread.If you happen to dig Transatlantic(Morse,Portnoy,Stolt,Trewavas,it doesn't get much better),and buy the cd SMPTe,try to get your hands on SMPTe:The Roine Stolt Mixes.I had SMPTe and then later was fortunate enough to get my hands on a copy of Roine's mixes and the difference is HUGE(for the better,IMHO).
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:28 |
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And if you like The Flower Kings,try Kaipa and The Tangent.Roine Stolt's all instrumental solo cd Hydrophonia is excellent too.I am really digging the band Karmakanic,another side project by a FK member(Jonas Reingold).Their first album "Entering the Spectra" has a lot of FK members playing on it(Roine Stolt,Tomas Bodin,Zoltan Czorz,Jaime Salazar).Their second "Wheel of Life" is also very good,heavier,sounding like more of a band effort and less like FK.Roine only contributes guitar on a few tracks,and Bodin on one track.Very good band,I hope to see more work from them in the future.
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Tommy
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:19 |
stonebeard wrote:
dont get me wrong, i like genesis. i own trespass, nursery cryme, foxtrot, selling england..., and lamb...(all the good stuff, i'm told), but i cant listen to them very often (they depress me)  
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If you like symphonic but with a heavier approach you should try out some ARENA albums. I think you'd like 'Contagious' 'Immortal' & 'The Visitor'
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stonebeard
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:17 |
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thank u much KING O LOSS
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King of Loss
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 22:00 |
Now that makes me even more interested in recommending you light, mostly happy The Flower Kings 
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stonebeard
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 21:53 |
dont get me wrong, i like genesis. i own trespass, nursery cryme, foxtrot, selling england..., and lamb...(all the good stuff, i'm told), but i cant listen to them very often (they depress me)
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King of Loss
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 21:53 |
Symphonic Prog like Yes, then definitely the Neo Progressive Rock like The Flower Kings and Spock's Beard will definitely do. Buy Snow, V for Spock's Beard. Since you are a DT fanatic try TransAtlantic.
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Tommy
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 21:39 |
stonebeard wrote:
very nice...
thank you all. and continue sending replies, for they will be much appreciated.
i know i am about to commit a sin in the world of prog but i gotta say it. i think that "in the court of the crimson king" is a very tedious, silly and a bit overrated album. it is almost pure experimentation. sure there are beautiful parts, but they are always skewed by unnecessary pieces of jangling noise. especially prevelent in "21st century schizoid man" i love the final song though. king crimson and genesis are just not my type of band.
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I wouldn't write off Genesis so quickly & certainly can't be compared to the tedious King Crimson!
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stonebeard
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 21:30 |
very nice...
thank you all. and continue sending replies, for they will be much appreciated.
i know i am about to commit a sin in the world of prog but i gotta say it. i think that "in the court of the crimson king" is a very tedious, silly and a bit overrated album. it is almost pure experimentation. sure there are beautiful parts, but they are always skewed by unnecessary pieces of jangling noise. especially prevelent in "21st century schizoid man" i love the final song though. king crimson and genesis are just not my type of band.
i dig rush too, now that i think of it, but they obviously never stick out in my mind because, to me, they seem like a classic rock band "trying" to be progressive, and just not being successful.
"symphonic prog", something like yes, is probably what i'm most interested in other than "prog metal" 
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 21:28 |
"The f**kers" are one hell of a f**king ass-licking band! Didn't make any albums though, they f**ked MAANI'S ASS instead
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TheProgtologist
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 20:19 |
Manunkind wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
How about Shadow Gallery aand Symphony X oh aand Ayreon if you like Dream Theater? |
Good choices - let's add some DT side projects here - Liquid Tension Experiment, James LaBrie's, John Petrucci's and Jordan Rudess' solo stuff, OSI, Frameshift, oh, and Explorers' Club!
Maybe also Chroma Key, to complement the suggestions above and to couterweigh them a little...
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How about Transatlantic?
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Posted: May 28 2005 at 19:08 |
We all can tell....
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