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My fiancée loves prog shows.  Why?  No lines in the womens restrooms. LOL

Actually she likes a variety of prog music but her favorites are Genesis, IZZ, Kansas, ELP, Helmet of Gnats, LTE, Cryptic Vision and a few others.  Not into metal of any kind and also not a big Yes or Rush fan as she does not like the alto vocals of Jon Anderson except for Relayer and well, I will be nice and not repeat what she says about Geddy Lee's voice. Wink
I don't know I  think there are women who would be open to prog because quite a few listen to classical. it is also involvement on the listeners end to get into the music.  It is why so many musicians favor it or people who have had some kind of experience playing or learning music. Most people don't have a clue to the technical aspects of what make a great passage of prog  and so it sounds boring to them .This is not limited to women. 


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In 1978 a girl introduced me to the music of Happy The Man. It was strange to see her judged by other female friends. When she would play the music of Happy The Man, her girlfriends would cringe with embarrassment.Shocked I also knew a girl that was obsessed with the early King Crimson. She made life uncomfortable for the other girls in our band by playing early Crimson recordings during our transport to gigs.Shocked My first wife who was a Gong fanatic, experienced turmoil with female friends who may have thought that due to her personal musical tastes, Ancora Psychiatric Hospital would have been her suitable place to reside.Ermm
 
All 3 were fans of Progressive rock and were not musicians. I was good friends with a female keyboardist that spent most of her day learning Keith Emerson pieces....and yet another girl who worked feverishly on string arrangements and her main instrument was Cello. Both girls were rejected by most of society as we travelled on the road for many years. It would seem that women who have an interest in Prog, have a tough time getting excepted and have more confrontations than a criminal has with the law. They were always off on their own because of that realization and there was no doubt, that the music they loved and respected was considered to be like a disease for many.
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It's just natural.

Not always middle aged men though, I am 15. :)
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There are not zero women who like prog rock. Not at all.

As for it appealing more to men than women, you're absolutely correct.

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Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:


Let's look at some of the famous female musicians out there: Shania Twain, Avril Lavigne, Lily Allen, etc. Then let's look at some of the famous male musicians out there: Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison. Very different music.

Bullsh*t. You could have easily inverted that and said: Nico, Janis Joplin, Patti Smith, etc. Ricky Martin, Rick Astley, Jedward.

Although I do think Rick Astley is pretty enjoyable myself once in a while.

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Originally posted by TheGazzardian TheGazzardian wrote:


Now let's take that supposition a step forward and say that said 16 year old girl interrupts her Bryan Adams or Spice Girls or whatever the young'ns (Tongue) are listening to today and listens to Van Der Graaf Generator. What are they going to think of those long songs, dark lyrics in Peter Hammill's unique voice? What will they think of the manic drumming and the dual saxophone attack? It will be beyond their scope of expectation and they likely won't know what to make of it. Most people these days judge music on the first listen, and VDGG requires more than just one listen to properly penetrate. So without an immediately obvious reason to love the music, and a lot of confusing new aspects, what will this young girl think?

For sure, she might love it. But I think that in most cases, it will be too far beyond her current scope of knowledge for her to appreciate, unless someone is showing it to her, adding their own enthusiasm to build up hers, etc...but I don't think it's likely she's going to discover & love it herself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU0wg5nupXM

That's a beautiful song that anyone from any demographic should be able to appreciate.

I used to listen to Soft Machine and Hatfield and the North when I was with my ex-girlfriend. She didn't like Third very much.


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Originally posted by JemJem714 JemJem714 wrote:

Originally posted by WatcherOfTheSkies88 WatcherOfTheSkies88 wrote:

I think everyone is missing one of the most important reasons why Men like prog more than Women: vocals. Women seem to put much more importance on vocals than Men do. Some progressive rock songs have long instrumental sections, and that can turn women off... because they crave to hear the human voice sing. Women want songs with vocals and minimal instrumental breaks. 
 
 
I actually sort of agree with this, or at least I've had first-hand experience of this recently. The other week, I told my sister that she should listen to "My Room (Waiting for Wonderland)" By VDGG. The first thing she said was "I'll never be able to sing along to this". Not sure if this is quite the point you were making but still, maybe it's a factor? (The second thing she said was that it sounded like cheesy elevator music GRRRR)
 
Other than that, I personally don't know what it is about me that might set me apart from other females in my choice of music.
 
Interesting.  I had my daughter take a look at this thread because I wanted her input.  I also wanted her to see how ridiculous some of the replies were.LOL 
 
She also singled out WatcherOfTheSkies88's above referenced comments and said that may have something to do with it.
 
My sister loves prog.  We went to many prog concerts long ago before the term prog existed.Wink  She is a musician.  I've always felt that musicians of all people have a greater appreciation for this type of genre, due in large part to the structure and complexity of the music.  Her favorite group was Gentle Giant.  We saw them several times including an unforgettable performance at the Roxy on Sunset Blvd. in LA.  My daughter has a greater love of classical music.  Kind of goes against the vocal theory though, now doesn't it?  My wife, well it's country music all the way.  As a matter of fact, my sister is the only female in my entire family who really likes progressive rock.  She is in no way into it as much as me though!
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Originally posted by JemJem714 JemJem714 wrote:

Originally posted by WatcherOfTheSkies88 WatcherOfTheSkies88 wrote:

I think everyone is missing one of the most important reasons why Men like prog more than Women: vocals. Women seem to put much more importance on vocals than Men do. Some progressive rock songs have long instrumental sections, and that can turn women off... because they crave to hear the human voice sing. Women want songs with vocals and minimal instrumental breaks. 
 
 
I actually sort of agree with this, or at least I've had first-hand experience of this recently. The other week, I told my sister that she should listen to "My Room (Waiting for Wonderland)" By VDGG. The first thing she said was "I'll never be able to sing along to this". Not sure if this is quite the point you were making but still, maybe it's a factor? (The second thing she said was that it sounded like cheesy elevator music GRRRR)
 
Other than that, I personally don't know what it is about me that might set me apart from other females in my choice of music.
I agree, and had already posted something to this effect. That is exactly the reason why my wife likes "Follow You Follow Me" but when she went to see Genesis she was bored by the long instrumental breaks.
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Originally posted by WatcherOfTheSkies88 WatcherOfTheSkies88 wrote:

I think everyone is missing one of the most important reasons why Men like prog more than Women: vocals. Women seem to put much more importance on vocals than Men do. Some progressive rock songs have long instrumental sections, and that can turn women off... because they crave to hear the human voice sing. Women want songs with vocals and minimal instrumental breaks. 
 
 
I actually sort of agree with this, or at least I've had first-hand experience of this recently. The other week, I told my sister that she should listen to "My Room (Waiting for Wonderland)" By VDGG. The first thing she said was "I'll never be able to sing along to this". Not sure if this is quite the point you were making but still, maybe it's a factor? (The second thing she said was that it sounded like cheesy elevator music GRRRR)
 
Other than that, I personally don't know what it is about me that might set me apart from other females in my choice of music.
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^ That's because, as been said, women are more intelligent socially Wink
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Hehe, was expecting 8 pages of bloodshed, but there are no women to take part in it.LOL
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Why does Malawi attrack more males than females? Is it the chance to join their people's army??
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No that's the United People's Front of Malawi.  Stern Smile
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Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

Are you sure it's not the Popular Liberation Army of Malawi?
Or am I mistaking them for the Malawian Liberation Army of the People?
 
Or is it the Popular Malawian Peoples Front?
 
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Are you sure it's not the Popular Liberation Army of Malawi?
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People’s Liberation Army of Malawi! Now that makes sense.
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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by seventhsojourn seventhsojourn wrote:

Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by ReaganwillshottyLibs ReaganwillshottyLibs wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Qboyy007 Qboyy007 wrote:

Women are too stupid to understand prog obviously, I have yet to meet a female with the mental capacity to understand music as deep as progressive rock.

 

That post shows your enlightened attitude to women even  better than your avatar!!! Just wait till Rachel reads this.


Prove that women are capable of listening to enlightened music and I'll change my mind. 
BUSTED!!! You have the same ip and email address as Qboy, consider "yourselves' banned. Double personalities are against site rules. Goodbye James.

 

Is that right, Easy Money??

 

Yes, having 2 site personalities will get you the perma-ban. The Regan.. personality was an obvious fake.
 
 
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