A health care question...

jammun wrote: C'mon, really, not one guess?  17 days in the hospital for lymphoma surgery is the deal.  No one willing to take a wild estimate?

I know it will be a depressing figure. Others may not want to take a wild guess since it is a "normal consequence of free market". Remember, profit is what counts.

I just wish she is well and better. And that one day families don't have to go bankrupt due to illness. Of all the reasons to go bankrupt, health should never be one in a country that spends trillions of dollars a year in wars (for example).

Easy Money wrote: Padraic wrote: Gee, thanks.  Always good to see one's country insulted over and over again.Little wonder I barely visit this site anymore. What about all the people who claim our country is too inept to run a proper health care program?

Easy Money wrote: You know Rob, after our conversation last night via PM (non-political), I can see why you have a different perspective on this. You belong to a really cool church that actually takes care of people, I'm impressed.

It's part of what a church is supposed to do (Acts 2:42-47).  Back when we were a little more well-off, we helped those who weren't, and since we've been in need, people have been very generous to us.  (The church also gives me little stipend each week to play the electric guitar with the pianist ).

It is just a shame though that the big movement right now is the filling of pews, the collection of money, and the grasping of political power- you won't find any of this mentioned as the church's purpose in the Bible. 

The T wrote: You tend to use "f**king" too much... I'd put you a big C- for that...

Late hour + beer 

Padraic wrote: Gee, thanks.  Always good to see one's country insulted over and over again.Little wonder I barely visit this site anymore.

What about all the people who claim our country is too inept to run a proper health care program?

Padraic wrote: Dalezilla wrote: Padraic wrote: But seriously Teo, try to imagine a thread here, where some other country gets sh*t on that much...it gets locked, the participants reprimanded at minimum. Well this is a thread about America, right? Obviously that's the country people are going to talk about. It should have been a thread that hopefully had some insightful, serious discussion about our health care system, not an excuse to trash the nation and its citizens because some of them have a different opinion than the majority on ProgArchives.

There has been plenty of insightful and serious discussion about the issues raised here and there was nothing remotely 'hateful' about my original post , critical and abrasively sarcastic yes, but you can't turn off and on your own constitution's cognisance of free speech like a faucet whenever its authors get slammed.

Dalezilla wrote: Padraic wrote: But seriously Teo, try to imagine a thread here, where some other country gets sh*t on that much...it gets locked, the participants reprimanded at minimum. Well this is a thread about America, right? Obviously that's the country people are going to talk about.

It should have been a thread that hopefully had some insightful, serious discussion about our health care system, not an excuse to trash the nation and its citizens because some of them have a different opinion than the majority on ProgArchives.

The T wrote: ExittheLemming wrote: The T wrote: Padraic wrote: Gee, thanks.  Always good to see one's country insulted over and over again. Little wonder I barely visit this site anymore. Oh come on every country has its flaws and its virtues... It so happens that health care is not among the latter in the US and it truly is kind of ridiculed outside the borders... There is no perfect country no matter what fanatics say.... Not even Scandinavian countries are perfect and they have all their life-well-being stats very high...  Think of the US as the DT of countries... is the most popular, the biggest, the richest, therefore it's constantly in everybody's mouth...  Yep, but are they progressive ? Certainly not... But they ARE a legend...

We do have a fair bit of inner turbulence as of late...

Padraic wrote: The T wrote: Padraic wrote: Gee, thanks.  Always good to see one's country insulted over and over again. Little wonder I barely visit this site anymore. Oh come on every country has its flaws and its virtues... It so happens that health care is not among the latter in the US and it truly is kind of ridiculed outside the borders... There is no perfect country no matter what fanatics say.... Not even Scandinavian countries are perfect and they have all their life-well-being stats very high...  Think of the US as the DT of countries... is the most popular, the biggest, the richest, therefore it's constantly in everybody's mouth...  The DT thing was funny But seriously Teo, try to imagine a thread here, where some other country gets sh*t on that much...it gets locked, the participants reprimanded at minimum. @ExitTheLemming:  you are merely rewarded with the following:

I consider myself flattened flattered and thankyou

The T wrote: Padraic wrote: Gee, thanks.  Always good to see one's country insulted over and over again. Little wonder I barely visit this site anymore. Oh come on every country has its flaws and its virtues... It so happens that health care is not among the latter in the US and it truly is kind of ridiculed outside the borders... There is no perfect country no matter what fanatics say.... Not even Scandinavian countries are perfect and they have all their life-well-being stats very high...  Think of the US as the DT of countries... is the most popular, the biggest, the richest, therefore it's constantly in everybody's mouth...

The DT thing was funny

But seriously Teo, try to imagine a thread here, where some other country gets sh*t on that much...it gets locked, the participants reprimanded at minimum.

@ExitTheLemming:  you are merely rewarded with the following: