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Ivan_Melgar_M 
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 Posted: December 14 2009 at 08:13 |
 Henry Plainview wrote:
Hoover better have been a joke vote.
I don't think they hate FDR just because of the term limit thing, Ivan. ;-) Although I do agree that it was a dick move. |
Yes, but I believe is a bit unfair,the guy saved USA the 1929 crisis and was President during he toughest war ever.
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Posted: December 14 2009 at 06:27 |
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Why was FDR a bad president? I'm curious.
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Roosvelt sold us to the Soviets. And he was an insolent liar too. During the elections when he wanted to gain the votes of Polish immigrants he posed for a picture with a map of Poland in its pre-II-world-war borders in the background indicating he would defend them in that shape while the Big Three had already decided otherwise (and he kept it secret because of the elections)! 
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Wasn't Churchill who led most of the negociations of the European Cake Sharing between UK/USA and URSS? I remember having read in my high school history book an extract of Churchill's auto-biography in which he confessed having decided of the fate of Europe in a very short chit-chat with the moustache-man: they only needed 15 minutes, a map and one red pencil to say which countries would belong to the "West" or the "East". Moreover, that wouldn't make him a bad AMERICAN president. Otherwise, you really must enjoy the French leaders.
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Atavachron
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Posted: December 14 2009 at 04:21 |
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I don't think any of us know these men or what really motivated them, and I suspect if you want to judge a President look at his policies.. besides you'd have to have some serious issues to want to be President
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mystic fred
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Posted: December 14 2009 at 02:45 |
From an American and also British point of view Franklin D,Roosevelt was the most important President in the list - the Great Depression devasted the whole western world, Roosevelt's "New Deal" policies brought in many social and economic benefits for the US before involvement in supporting the Allies during WW II.
Winston Churchill was recently voted the greatest Englishman who ever lived, and like Roosevelt he was the right man in the right place in what was a catastrophic period in World history, where if things had not gone our way who knows what the state the World would be in now. 
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rpe9p
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Posted: December 14 2009 at 00:35 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
Hoover better have been a joke vote. |
Harding is the correct joke vote, one of the worst presidents in american history, though hoover was bad too
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stonebeard
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 23:49 |
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T.R., but honestly I don't know much about a lot of them.
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 23:46 |
Hoover better have been a joke vote.
I don't think they hate FDR just because of the term limit thing, Ivan. ;-) Although I do agree that it was a dick move.
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 14:52 |
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I would have to go with Truman. Even the aliens began to take notice after Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Edited by Vibrationbaby - December 13 2009 at 14:54
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A Person
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 14:41 |
A Person wrote:
Being an avid Cracked reader I know the Roosevelt was hardcore.
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But you don't know he was a eugenicist, the same as Woodrow Wilson. 
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A Person
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 14:25 |
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Being an avid Cracked reader I know the Roosevelt was hardcore.
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 12:52 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
Why was FDR a bad president? I'm curious.
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Roosvelt sold us to the Soviets. And he was an insolent liar too. During the elections when he wanted to gain the votes of Polish immigrants he posed for a picture with a map of Poland in its pre-II-world-war borders in the background indicating he would defend them in that shape while the Big Three had already decided otherwise (and he kept it secret because of the elections)!
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"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 12:46 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
Why was FDR a bad president? I'm curious. |
FDR was not a bad President, his new deal worked and faought WWII, but he broke an unwritten rule.
When Washington finished his secondperiod, he was asked to be President again and he declined because he argued he fought against a monarchy and wouldn't create a new one.
Jefferson did the same, and after hijm, no President even dreamed in being candidate for a third period, except Ullysses S Grant (with terrible results, being forced to resign, before making itofficial due to corruption accusations), so this became an unwritten Ammendment.
But FDR not only was candidate a third, but also a fourth time, so the 10th Ammendment was formally adopted, after being pased in 1947
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Sect. 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
Sect. 2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several states within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress. |
What could had been a non written rule respected by everybody, turned into a mandatory law.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - December 13 2009 at 12:48
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 12:12 |
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Why was FDR a bad president? I'm curious.
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Epignosis
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 12:10 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
Dear God such an insane blowout. Calvin Coolidge absolutely.
Calvin Coolidge wrote:
I favor the policy of economy, not because I wish to save money, but because I wish to save people. The men and women of this country who toil are the ones who bear the cost of the government. Every dollar we carelessly waste means that their life will be so much the more meager. Every dollar that we prudently save means that their life will be so much the more abundant. Economy is idealism in its most practical form.
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Three of our worst presidents here with Wilson, FDR, and Hoover. |
This.
Also, in response to the notion that the USA is a white man's country:
"....I was amazed to receive such a letter. During the war 500,000
colored men and boys were called up under the draft, not one of whom
sought to evade it. [As president, I am] one who feels a responsibility
for living up to the traditions and maintaining the principles of the
Republican Party. Our Constitution guarantees equal rights to all our
citizens, without discrimination on account of race or color. I have
taken my oath to support that Constitution.... "
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 12:08 |
Hey...Where is Nixon (1969)
FOUR MORE YEARS 
Iván
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manofmystery
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 12:04 |
^ I like this guy, even if he is from philly 
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Equality 7-2521
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 11:57 |
Dear God such an insane blowout. Calvin Coolidge absolutely.
Calvin Coolidge wrote:
I favor the policy of economy, not because I wish to save money, but because I wish to save people. The men and women of this country who toil are the ones who bear the cost of the government. Every dollar we carelessly waste means that their life will be so much the more meager. Every dollar that we prudently save means that their life will be so much the more abundant. Economy is idealism in its most practical form.
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Three of our worst presidents here with Wilson, FDR, and Hoover.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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omri
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 10:54 |
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FDR. Probably the best president ever.
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omri
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Finnforest
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Posted: December 13 2009 at 10:35 |
"I like Ike. My bike likes Ike." -Fonzie 
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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