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mono 
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 Posted: December 02 2009 at 11:05 |
 Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:
mono wrote:
C as the bass chord... most guitars can't play this
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What do you mean by this?
Guitars can quite comfortably be tuned down to an octave below C standard if you use the correct scale length and string gauges.
Most 25.5 inch scale guitars will easily be able to get down to A standard with no issues, so C standard is not much of a stretch at all. My 7 string guitar is a 25.5 inch scale instrument and it handles drop A with no issues provided I use a 56 gauge string.
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I meant that when I tune my E string down to C, it sounds awful.
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Posted: December 02 2009 at 06:09 |
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Well, it's an adaptation of the standard tuning of cellos and violins, and I'd like to see a violininst playing with this tuning on a guitar... I have this tuning on an strat and have no intonation issues, but the Low C Seems to be the limit (for a proper intonation). Maybe with heavier strings...
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Posted: December 02 2009 at 06:01 |
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If you use custom strings set it's ok. I use 09 11 17 28 42 58. Trying to play a 42 in C IS quite difificult.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: December 02 2009 at 04:06 |
Negoba wrote:
I didn't realize it was a standard tuning, |
It isn't a standard tuning. A standard tuning is a tuning with the 2nd and 3rd strings having an interval of a major 3rd between them and every other string has an interval of a 4th between them. When someone refers to a tuning as "B standard" what they just mean is that it's E standard tuned down 5 semi tones, or in the case of a 7 string it's just the usual factory tuning.
mono wrote:
C as the bass chord... most guitars can't play this
correctly.
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What do you mean by this? Guitars can quite comfortably be tuned down to an octave below C standard if you use the correct scale length and string gauges. Most 25.5 inch scale guitars will easily be able to get down to A standard with no issues, so C standard is not much of a stretch at all. My 7 string guitar is a 25.5 inch scale instrument and it handles drop A with no issues provided I use a 56 gauge string.
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mono
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Posted: December 02 2009 at 03:27 |
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C as the bass chord... most guitars can't play this correctly.
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 17:54 |
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I use in a lot of the songs with my band the drop D tuning... I use for some covers the double drop D which is nice and easy to play.. but the most wierd I have used in some covers is E-A-B-E-B-E. Very wierd chords but the poliphony helps a lot more... standard tuning in the 70% of my playing...
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Catholic Flame
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 17:34 |
I've never tried that but I did do some retuning using Charles Ives' ideas about using quarter tones in blocked chords (he had a 2 manual piano that where a quarter tone different). Some worked and some didn't. Lots of clashes in the overtone series. < id="gwProxy" ="">< ="jsCall;" id="jsProxy" ="">
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 16:59 |
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I just played with NST and the FACACF tuning that Negoba recommended. Good fun.
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Negoba
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 10:19 |
I didn't realize it was a standard tuning, I may try that tonight. I've been recently learning Mandolin, and thought to myself "Hey if I just made all my string in 5ths instead of 4ths and one Maj 3rd maybe I could transfer better." Obviously someone else thought of it along time ago. (Mando is tuned as the middle 4 strings in NST.)
Thanks for the tip.
My favorite alternate is FACACF
Most common are the usual drop D and double drop D (DADGBD)
Edited by Negoba - December 01 2009 at 10:22
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recaxa
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 09:46 |
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I now have a strat tuned in NST, it's like starting again, I've made in two evenings about 4 ideas for new songs. This guitar is going to remain with NST all the time, the chords inversions makes new colours...
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 09:42 |
mrcozdude wrote:
Who was it who tuned their guitar to E-E-E-E-B-E? |
Probably Glenn Branca, or possibly one of the guys out of Sunn 0))).
I've messed around with DADF#AD, DADGAD and dropped D on acoustic guitars and there are lots of interesting possibilities, but I've never tried to get my head around NST - I'm not that musically literate and I don't think I'd be able to get my head around the chords.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 07:46 |
mrcozdude wrote:
Who was it who tuned their guitar to E-E-E-E-B-E? |
I read somewhere that the Glitter Band (yes really) used similar tunings to the one above.
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 06:03 |
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Who was it who tuned their guitar to E-E-E-E-B-E?
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 05:48 |
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I use DADGAD more.
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 05:08 |
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I tried it once, but I prefer weird tunings like E-A-E-A-A-E.
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 02:30 |
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I have tried it for a short while and found it stimulating for monophonic ideas but completely alien when it comes to chordal passages etc
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 01:22 |
I keep my fretless bass in cello tuning, not quite New Standard, but close. 
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 01:14 |
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My 6 string guitar is in E A D G B E and sometimes drop D but to be honest i barely play it.
7 string is tuned the same, just with a low B string, sometimes with the low B tuned down to drop A.
Never felt the need to try NST to be honest
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mrcozdude
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 01:04 |
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I'm not willing to drop my bass to C
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Pekka
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Posted: December 01 2009 at 00:49 |
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I have a bit (but can't vote in the poll for some reason), but very briefly a couple of times. One of my guitars is currently tuned that way, sometimes I pick it up and strum a bit, but I've never really actually sat down and explored its possibilities. Some day, some day.
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