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J-Man 
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 Posted: November 09 2009 at 17:21 |
 p0mt3 wrote:
absolute wrote:
This is a poll? Count me info for Oldfield.
"Oldfield is good at what he does; but what he does is stock material."
No disrespect to Opeth/Akerfeldt, but it's a very bad comparison- Oldfield's composed in more styles than almost anyone labeled 'prog', everything from Incantations to Songs of Distant Earth can hardly be labelled "stock" in any sense. And honestly I don't find everything Oldfield does as memorable or fantastic- but he has far more accolades than any more modern composer / artist.
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That's an opinion; not a fact. Opeth mixes Folk, Jazz, Classic Rock and Metal all the time in their music; not to mention the fact that their music is far superior to many in terms of technical prowess and composition.
You say no modern composer or artist can match Oldfeild, I say different. Big time.
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JLocke
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Posted: November 09 2009 at 17:09 |
absolute wrote:
This is a poll? Count me info for Oldfield.
"Oldfield is good at what he does; but what he does is stock material."
No disrespect to Opeth/Akerfeldt, but it's a very bad comparison- Oldfield's composed in more styles than almost anyone labeled 'prog', everything from Incantations to Songs of Distant Earth can hardly be labelled "stock" in any sense. And honestly I don't find everything Oldfield does as memorable or fantastic- but he has far more accolades than any more modern composer / artist.
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That's an opinion; not a fact. Opeth mixes Folk, Jazz, Classic Rock and Metal all the time in their music; not to mention the fact that their music is far superior to many in terms of technical prowess and composition. You say no modern composer or artist can match Oldfeild, I say different. Big time.
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absolute
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Posted: November 09 2009 at 16:37 |
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This is a poll? Count me info for Oldfield.
"Oldfield is good at what he does; but what he does is stock material."
No disrespect to Opeth/Akerfeldt, but it's a very bad comparison- Oldfield's composed in more styles than almost anyone labeled 'prog', everything from Incantations to Songs of Distant Earth can hardly be labelled "stock" in any sense. And honestly I don't find everything Oldfield does as memorable or fantastic- but he has far more accolades than any more modern composer / artist.
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snobb
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 12:33 |
 At least someone remember 'bout Jackson and even put him at second place! So, it looks Michael is more proggy than Opeth in some places of the world 
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splyu
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:37 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
The people who like Oldfield more is not vnecesarilly Metal haters |
Sorry for the triple post, but I want to say: Indeed! Mike is my favourite but I'm actually a metal fan, including extreme metal. Only Opeth aren't among my favourite metal bands.
| and BTW: Oldfiekld is not a New Age artist, Tubular bells is a classic album as well as Amarok and Omadawn....Saying Oldfield is a New Age artist is klike saying Wakeman is also.
Plus Oldfield is a complete muti-instrumentaluist, to a level few artists can't even dream. |
Again, indeed! Mike does have a few new age albums, but that only started in the mid-90s. And by no means everything he did since then has been new age either. Before that, not at all.
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splyu
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:30 |
papaatto wrote:
Anyone who has listened to Tubular Bells also knows that Oldfield can growl pretty well. |
Indeed. He does it in Five Miles Out, too.
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splyu
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:29 |
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My ranking: 1. Oldfield, 2. Jackson, 3. Åkerfeldt. All are good, but Åkerfeldt is the least best.
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CPicard
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:25 |
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First, I was serious.
Then, I growled.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 10:13 |
Things are taking it's right place
But still can change.
Iván
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bsms810
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 09:53 |
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side note: as far as growls go, Akerfelt does a bloody good one...if you like that sort of thing
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'when was the last time you had a girlfriend?'
'I dont look at it as when, I look at it as who...and why' - David Brent
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bsms810
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 09:51 |
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im going to go and listen to some Opeth
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'when was the last time you had a girlfriend?'
'I dont look at it as when, I look at it as who...and why' - David Brent
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bsms810
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 09:49 |
@ Lucas, like i said some parts of opeth songs are written for growls , and it just wouldnt work with clean singing (see my example of the intro to 'the Baying of the Hounds'). Same with death metal. If some1 were to come up to me and just growl then no i probably wouldnt like it, but if its an integral part of a song i love, then of course im going to like it. If some of my fave opeth songs exchanged the small parts of growling to clean then it would change the song and make them worse in my opinion. Too much growling and growling for the sake of it gets on my tits, thats why im not a big fan of bands like Immortal and cradle of filth, because there isnt really much clean singing at all.
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'when was the last time you had a girlfriend?'
'I dont look at it as when, I look at it as who...and why' - David Brent
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papaatto
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 09:43 |
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Anyone who has listened to Tubular Bells also knows that Oldfield can growl pretty well.
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Pekka
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 05:36 |
lucas wrote:
How one can like growls ? |
They sound good.
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lucas
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 05:35 |
bsms810 wrote:
i hated the growls at first.... but for some reason i cant explain i now like them... |
You mean you " tolerate" them ? How one can like growls ? I listen to a lot of death metal bands but I would never say I like the growls...
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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CPicard
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 05:28 |
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I voted for Good Ol'Oldfield, but only because of a natural reflex. Anyway, I think this poll is just another twisted poll about oranges VS. apples.
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The Sleepwalker
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 04:50 |
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snobb
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 04:02 |
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Great result 34/34 for the moment. I think the idea to compare "classic"with "modern metal" is not interesting but itself, because there are too many marginal moments in poll, not only music. It's pity, but it's life.
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rogerthat
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 03:13 |
Tough poll because I don't particularly care of either of the three but don't dislike any of them either. I haven't gone beyond Tubular Bells and I wasn't blown away by it but I still liked it more than Opeth or Michael Jackson. And I am no snob hating on a pop phenomenon because I am in awe of Jackson's voice and while I don't really like the music, it's infinitely better than the current crop, at least it was invigorating. Opeth....decent band but I get bored of them rather too often for my liking. When I want growls in my prog I will listen to Univers Zero. 
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rogerthat
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Posted: November 08 2009 at 03:12 |
Tough poll because I don't particularly care of either of the three but don't dislike any of them either. I haven't gone beyond Tubular Bells and I wasn't blown away by it but I still liked it more than Opeth or Michael Jackson. And I am no snob hating on a pop phenomenon because I am in awe of Jackson's voice and while I don't really like the music, it's infinitely better than the current crop, at least it was invigorating. Opeth....decent band but I get bored of them rather too often for my liking. When I want growls in my prog I will listen to Univers Zero.
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