The VDGG/Peter Hammill Appreciation Thread |
Post Reply | Page <1234> |
Author | ||||
VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: September 13 2009 at 16:29 | |||
I don't play as often as I should but it's a terrific album. The last of the classic lineup.
Ricochet loves the album to bits and it's his favourite. I don't love it THAT much but I would still probably give it between a 4 and a 4.5. |
||||
|
||||
Tsevir Leirbag
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 03 2009 Location: Montréal Status: Offline Points: 8321 |
Posted: September 13 2009 at 16:27 | |||
Chameleon is one I forgot to name! It's great. What do you think of VDGG's World Record? |
||||
Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
||||
VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: September 13 2009 at 16:21 | |||
Oh I love the new album. I liked it from first listen. It got to about my fourth listen and then I didn't like it so much. Then I gave it a fifth listen and now it's really clicked for me.
Sure, it's not as amazing as his classics, such as The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage, In Camera, Chameleon in the Shadow of the Night and Over but it's still very good. |
||||
|
||||
Tsevir Leirbag
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 03 2009 Location: Montréal Status: Offline Points: 8321 |
Posted: September 13 2009 at 16:18 | |||
^ I was kidding. Of COURSE it's not pop.
As for Thin Air, I don't like it much. Well, I don't like it at all.
From his solo albums, I like Silent Stage and In Camera more than every others.
|
||||
Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
||||
VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: September 13 2009 at 16:14 | |||
It's not a pop song.
It was never popular. Now If We Must Part Like This from his new album Thin Air, is a pop song. |
||||
|
||||
Tsevir Leirbag
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 03 2009 Location: Montréal Status: Offline Points: 8321 |
Posted: September 13 2009 at 16:11 | |||
It is DEFINITELY a pop song
I tought it was written by Britney Spears....
|
||||
Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
||||
VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer Joined: July 04 2005 Location: Malaria Status: Offline Points: 89372 |
Posted: September 13 2009 at 16:05 | |||
House With No Door a pop song? No pop song could be THAT depressing. |
||||
|
||||
Tsevir Leirbag
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 03 2009 Location: Montréal Status: Offline Points: 8321 |
Posted: September 13 2009 at 15:54 | |||
For now, nobody has named World Record. I think it is a sadly underrated album. It is excellent in my opinion.
|
||||
Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers, Un marin mort, Il dormira - Paul Éluard |
||||
The Sleepwalker
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 03 2009 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 15141 |
Posted: September 03 2009 at 02:21 | |||
A very interesting interview. I think VDGG has done a pretty good job with Trisector. Davic Jackson's sax has always been a very important part of Van Der Graaf's music, and I think it's pretty hard to keep an interesting sound when such an important aspect of the music is gone. They've done a very nice job keeping their music interesting and preventing it from heavy suffering from the absence of the sax. It still is a huge difference compared to earlier VDGG albums though, David's sax does add that emotional and striking touch to the music.
|
||||
|
||||
SonicDeath10
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 06 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 282 |
Posted: August 29 2009 at 09:07 | |||
|
||||
"Good evening hippies." Bobby Boy
|
||||
BaldJean
Prog Reviewer Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
Posted: August 29 2009 at 07:24 | |||
here is the link to a recent interview with Peter Hammill:
http://tinyurl.com/ndgbjp Edited by BaldJean - August 29 2009 at 07:24 |
||||
A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
||||
A B Negative
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 02 2006 Location: Methil Republic Status: Offline Points: 1594 |
Posted: August 29 2009 at 06:00 | |||
I disagree, there are many examples of this. I would describe Afterwards, Refugees, House With No Door, and W as carefully written pop songs.
But they aren't my favourite VDGG songs, I prefer the sturm und drang.
|
||||
"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
|
||||
LiquidEternity
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 07 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 900 |
Posted: August 28 2009 at 11:42 | |||
I don't really like most of the album, but The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other has White Hammer on it. The song is pretty dorky, but that final avant-doom outro gets me every time. 1970, folks. It still sounds crushing and heavy today, even compared to all sorts of metal acts.
|
||||
|
||||
Badabing666
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 30 2008 Location: Devon, UK Status: Offline Points: 248 |
Posted: August 28 2009 at 10:51 | |||
Hadn't heard VDGG until this year. Boy I have missed out.
They have a unique sound and one that holds my attention whenever I play Godbluff and Pawn Hearts. It is only now that I have heard them that I realise what a strong influence they are on so many bands today. They are great addtions to my collection and hopefuly many others who will discover them as I did. |
||||
|
||||
SonicDeath10
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 06 2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 282 |
Posted: August 28 2009 at 10:40 | |||
Van Der Graaf is one of those bands that you get or you don't. Their noisy, melodramatic bluster can really be off putting if you aren't into that kind of thing. Hammill's screaming can be very irritating and the early stuff is...well, noisy. There is a lack of careful pop songwriting in the band's approach, and melody is often discarded even in the later period in favor of jamming, screaming, and noise.
However, to the faithful, all of these things are exciting. I dig them and have quite a few Hammill albums, though I'll never them all. No Thanks.
|
||||
"Good evening hippies." Bobby Boy
|
||||
The Coastliner
Forum Groupie Joined: July 19 2009 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 75 |
Posted: August 27 2009 at 22:50 | |||
Just popped in to say that, while I've liked VdGG for awhile, I hadn't touched Hammill's solo stuff until now. I was really blown away by In Camera -- especially "Gog/Magog (In Bromine Chambers)". What a confrontational song! It's got me looking into the mythological history of the two characters!
Also definitely seconding that H to He is worth getting into. It began with me just liking "Killer", but then I managed to 'get' each song one by one, which is the way it seems to work with a lot of VdGG. And, for another bit of VdGG fun, does anyone else interpret Godbluff as being about one gigantic war that continues to escalate to ridiculous levels as it goes on? I'll admit that I don't think it was the original intention necessarily, but it adds a little relish to each of my listens to it.
|
||||
|
||||
The Sleepwalker
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 03 2009 Location: The Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 15141 |
Posted: August 27 2009 at 13:46 | |||
All of VDGG's albums take a while to fully appreciate / understand. I also didn't really enjoy H to He in the beginning, Pioneers over C. was too experimental, Killer too cheesy etc. But after listening to it more and more I began to appreciate and uinderstand the songs and now I absolutely love them. You should really try Still Life, it's absolutely fantastic. It was really hard to get into though, at the first couple of listens it sounded like a less raw and much less powerful version of Godbluff, but the opposite is what I think now. Apart from Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, Still Life contains some of VDGG's most emotional songs, and that's where the true power of the album lies. Definitely La Rossa and Childlike Faith in Childhoods End are absolutely stunning pieces. I'm sure if you like VDGG already after two weeks listening to them, you will like them much more when knowing them better, it took me months to fully understand their music!
|
||||
|
||||
Mladen_Serbia
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 13 2009 Status: Offline Points: 115 |
Posted: August 27 2009 at 13:07 | |||
I've been listening to VDGG for about week or two, and the only album I truly liked is Pawn hearts. Godbluff is pretty solid as well, but I still have to get into it. I enjoyed TLWCDIWTEO, but H to He was a huge dissapointment to me. I guess it just takes time... I haven't heard Still life yet.
|
||||
Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
Posted: August 26 2009 at 22:22 | |||
Let's find him and destroy that cosmic cock tease.
|
||||
"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
|
||||
LiquidEternity
Prog Reviewer Joined: December 07 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 900 |
Posted: August 26 2009 at 22:18 | |||
Agree ten thousand percent. I almost got it once for less than thirty dollars. Unfortunately, suddenly the seller is all, "Oh wait, I don't have it." Jerk. |
||||
|
||||
Post Reply | Page <1234> |
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |