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deafmoon
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 20:09 |
John Entwistle.
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 18:32 |
p0mt3 wrote:
mrcozdude wrote:
Any Colour You Like wrote:
p0mt3 wrote:
Waters isn't very good . . . .There, I said it! OxO
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Haha, I know that, Gilmour played some of the more difficult parts anyway.
Victor Wooten is amazing, but I still beleive that his technicality needs to be kept in check, otherwise he just sounds like a rambling, eccentric (but brilliant) mess.
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Yep pretty much spot on.
I think Waters song writing is a fair trade for his bass playing.He's almost his Ying to Gilmour's yang (awaits flame)
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Nooooooo! Ah you can't say this? Have you ever heard Dogs or Atom Heart Mother? F*cking great bass! Geddy Lee too. Chris Squire UNDOUBTLY. Richard Sinclair, under-rated.
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
- Paul Éluard
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Captain Capricorn
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 18:19 |
...anyone for Henri Texier?
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nordwind
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 17:11 |
Lemme Kilminster (technically - he played in Hawkwind )
John Wetton
Gary Thain
Chris Squire
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Jazz isn't dead.......it just smells funny.
Frank Zappa / Live in New York
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PhuncleSam
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 16:52 |
Justin Chancellor (tool) has always been a favorite of mine, his Wal bass is the sickest thing ever.
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Interviewer: "So Frank, you have long hair. Does that make you a woman?"
FZ: "You have a wooden leg. Does that make you a table?"
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 16:43 |
Tal's young, keep your eye on her, I get a feeling she will continue to impress.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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spinsLPs
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 16:42 |
Percy Jones. Period.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 16:06 |
Yes; he does a lot of unexpected things. I was actually pleasantly surprised with his playing in Beck's band; I knew him from a different background where he did a lot of those double bass drum thunderstorms which I (mostly) detest since I rarely see the artistic reason for them. I have heard one or two exceptions, but generally that's my opinion on these double bass drums thunderstorms. Just a personal preference, of course; you'll never find me doing them. Gender actually may play a role here; these double bass drum stunts are full of testosterone, in my honest opinion, though Mike does not like to hear that .
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fuxi
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 15:54 |
Well, I certainly get the point with Bruford, Moerlen, Jack DeJohnette and several others. But you also admire VC for his fill-ins? (This is the last thing I'll say about drumming in this thread, I promise!)
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 15:36 |
fuxi wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
I like his performance in these Jeff Beck videos very much. It shows that the double bass drum escapades he sometimes is engaged in but which I dislike are not really necessary; on the contrary, his playing is much more interesting without them. This is of course my opinion only; others may disagree.
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Oh, thanks. As a non-drummer, I still find myself wondering what's so special about his style. He's very energetic, and he's got an incredible CV, but I still don't see what's so great about him. Will have to keep watching and listening, I guess... |
I judge a drummer mostly by his fill-ins; keeping the rhythm, even if it is a complicated one, is in my opinion basic.. And I love spontaneity with a drummer; one should never be able to predict what he is going to play next. (unless, of course, a certain figure is needed to announce a change in the song; e. g. Gong's "Isle of Everywhere", where a certain drum figure tells the band members it is time to change the rhythm). My favourite drummers are all very spontaneous.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 15:25 |
rushfan4 wrote:
My response to the Hattler comment is that those of us not in Germany have probably never heard of him except when you and Jean mention him. Which made me think of Jeff Whittle from Tiles. He is a monster on bass, but unless you are from Michigan and have seen them play live 4 or 5 times, you are probably not going to mention him either. |
The difference is, as I pointed out, that Hattler is a central figure in the German rock scene; he played in lots of bands and projects (Kraan, Guru Guru, Liliental, Highdelberg, Tab Two or his own band which is simply named "Hattler", to list just a few). I know for sure we are not the only people who like the early Krautrock. That's why I am surprised. And no-one mentioned Colin Hodgkinson either, and he is NOT German.
Edited by BaldFriede - July 27 2009 at 18:22
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Evolver
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 15:17 |
No mention of Andy West?
Those Dave LaRue Dregs albums are missing West's unique style.
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Trust me. I know what I'm doing.
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fuxi
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 14:50 |
BaldFriede wrote:
I like his performance in these Jeff Beck videos very much. It shows that the double bass drum escapades he sometimes is engaged in but which I dislike are not really necessary; on the contrary, his playing is much more interesting without them. This is of course my opinion only; others may disagree.
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Oh, thanks. As a non-drummer, I still find myself wondering what's so special about his style. He's very energetic, and he's got an incredible CV, but I still don't see what's so great about him. Will have to keep watching and listening, I guess...
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rushfan4
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 14:30 |
My response to the Hattler comment is that those of us not in Germany have probably never heard of him except when you and Jean mention him. Which made me think of Jeff Whittle from Tiles. He is a monster on bass, but unless you are from Michigan and have seen them play live 4 or 5 times, you are probably not going to mention him either.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 14:21 |
That Hattler's name NEVER pops up in any bass player threads unless he is mentioned by Jean or me is something I can hardly understand. It is a real shame proggers are not more familiar with his name. That guy has been around for almost 40 years now; anyone who knows a bit about Krautrock should be familiar with his name; he is one of the central figures in the German rock scene.
Edited by BaldFriede - July 27 2009 at 17:04
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 14:06 |
Stanley Clarke deserves more mentions BTW...
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 13:56 |
sleeper wrote:
Some bassists that I think are not only hugely talented in their own right but add so much to the music of the band, and havnt been mentioned yet.
Joe Battimelli (No Made Sense) Joe Lester (Intronaut) Torsten Reichert (Vanden Plas) Oliver Holzwarth (Sieges Even) Kristoffer Gildenlow (Pain of Salvation, Dark Suns) Kristian Karl Hultgren (Wobbler) Johan Hogberg (Anglagard, no one weilds a Rickenbacker better than this guy) Troy Sanders (Masterdon) Jonnas Reingold (Flower Kings, The Tangent, Karmekanic) Pete Trewaves (Marillion, Transatlantic) Toby Driver (maudlin of the Well, Kayo Dot) Matt Thompson (Guapo) Dan Briggs (Between the Buried and Me) Roger Patterson (Atheist) Jan Erik Liljestrom (Anekdoten) Mariuz Duda (Riverside)
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Great list, I forgot several of those! The guy from Intronaut is great, and ridiculously underrated.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 12:06 |
I like his performance in these Jeff Beck videos very much. It shows that the double bass drum escapades he sometimes is engaged in but which I dislike are not really necessary; on the contrary, his playing is much more interesting without them. This is of course my opinion only; others may disagree.
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fuxi
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 11:39 |
BaldFriede wrote:
I also love this one, where Tal and Jeff due a bass duet. |
It's outside the scope of this thread, really, but as a drummer, Baldfriede, what do you make of Vinnie Colaiuta's playing?
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sleeper
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Posted: July 27 2009 at 10:00 |
Some bassists that I think are not only hugely talented in their own right but add so much to the music of the band, and havnt been mentioned yet.
Joe Battimelli (No Made Sense) Joe Lester (Intronaut) Torsten Reichert (Vanden Plas) Oliver Holzwarth (Sieges Even) Kristoffer Gildenlow (Pain of Salvation, Dark Suns) Kristian Karl Hultgren (Wobbler) Johan Hogberg (Anglagard, no one weilds a Rickenbacker better than this guy) Troy Sanders (Masterdon) Jonnas Reingold (Flower Kings, The Tangent, Karmekanic) Pete Trewaves (Marillion, Transatlantic) Toby Driver (maudlin of the Well, Kayo Dot) Matt Thompson (Guapo) Dan Briggs (Between the Buried and Me) Roger Patterson (Atheist) Jan Erik Liljestrom (Anekdoten) Mariuz Duda (Riverside)
Edited by sleeper - July 27 2009 at 10:01
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