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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 27 2009 at 01:37 |
^ Of course. The parts of the spiral that appear to be blue/green are actually the same (greenish) color, but that color looks much greener to our brain if you put it next to orange bars, as opposed to purple bars. LCDs/CRTs use subtractive RGB color models, and in those orange is composed of red and green, while purple is composed of red and blue. It makes sense ... orange makes the bar next to it look greener compared to purple, which makes the bar next to it more blue.
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Atavachron
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 21:16 |
^ basically yes, color is an effect of light (in our case yellow light I guess) hitting a certain surface, no light no color.. as for Friede's spiral, perhaps that purple/orange counter-spiral is contributing to the illusion
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 19:36 |
Well that's true there not colors...technically shades of grey I believe
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 19:30 |
Actually this is a paradox. It is correct to say that A and B are the same thing: opposite non-chromatic expressions of light. (Meaning: they're not colours, so yeah they're the same colour ) |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 19:25 |
@Mike: all knowledge is subjective (which doesn't make it more reliable than it is). Even the fact of you stating that the colour is the same is an aplication of your subjective preference for the notions of "objective realities". Of course that doesn't mean I don't agree with you about the colour. What's important to me though is that the colour looks in two different ways, and I'm basing my rational judgements on this perception, which I found more down to earth and "realistic" than keeping in mind that the colour is actually not what it looks like.
@Henry: having a good sense of relativity (in an epistemological way, not ethical) actually gives one a better grip to the actual world. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:19 |
^^Now that I believe!
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:10 |
A and B are the same color. |
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:08 |
Oh lord, are you one of those people who doesn't believe in reality?
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:03 |
yes, but an illusion is subjective, the image itself remains objective. There's no denying that the color is constant throughout the image
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 18:02 |
Of course they don't apply to you because you have a different epistemological view than mine, that was the point |
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JJLehto
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:48 |
Vompatti
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:31 |
I wonder what Wittgenstein would have thought about this . . .
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:24 |
yeah, but the green and blue are actually just a shade of turquoise IN FACT, so your semantics still don't apply
very cool effect though! |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 17:20 |
We're getting into semiotics now but I have to explain my position: what I see is green and blue and that is what they are to me. The fact that it's an optic manipulation of the same colour by combination with other colours and by using the recognition patterns of our brain, that is another thing. It is epistemologically correct to base your judgement over the information provided by your subjective experience, disregarding the "objective" truth (in this case the fact that the colour is actually different than what it looks like). Epistemology learns one a lot about relativity of things, perception and ration.
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Ricochet
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 15:42 |
Seeing the blue and green as blue and green IS the illusion. They're actually the same color. Explanations were offered above. Edited by Ricochet - June 26 2009 at 15:43 |
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 15:40 |
Trust me; the colours are identical. I loaded the image into UPaint; both the "blue" and the "green" were of the same combination of red, green and blue (actually no red at all, 255 green and 150 blue). |
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 15:01 |
I can cleary see the blue and green are blue and green. However, it may indeed be an optical manipulation: maybe, an effect of the complementarity contrast?
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TheCaptain
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 11:10 |
Explanation on the first one: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/06/24/the-blue-and-the-green/
Edited by TheCaptain - June 26 2009 at 11:11 |
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Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:48 |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: June 26 2009 at 10:44 |
Ooohh - nice ones
This is a bit of a doozie too: |
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