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SgtPepper67 
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Joined: October 17 2007 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 530 |
 Posted: July 08 2009 at 20:16 |
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I've never been a fan but liked a few songs by him, I think he was talented in what he did and have a big respect for him. I always loved the songs Black or white and Earth.
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JLocke
Prog Reviewer 
Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
Posted: July 08 2009 at 14:40 |
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It matters to Al Sharpton. Wonder if he treats Michael's white kids with so much respect just because their dad was black. No, that couldn't be it . . .  |
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Slartibartfast
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Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: July 08 2009 at 12:51 |
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But it doesn't matter. Ebony and ivory... Edited by Slartibartfast - July 13 2009 at 16:44 |
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The Runaway
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Joined: May 28 2009 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 3144 |
Posted: July 08 2009 at 12:05 |
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It's black, it's white, he was both, he's dead.
RIP MJ
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progkidjoel
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Joined: March 02 2009 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 19643 |
Posted: July 08 2009 at 01:22 |
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I grew up in 90's, and although not a massive fan, my mother was, and I can remember countless days in the car listening to Black Or White...
Sad news... |
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avalanchemaster
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 02 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 730 |
Posted: July 08 2009 at 00:33 |
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If I went all prog elitist and said that MJ's music never affected me, I would be a liar and should be summarily shot on sight. Regardless, I grew up like many US citizens (in the late 70s/80s) totally surrounded by the massive media hoopla and success that was Michael. But I cannot deny his obvious talent. It was evident when he was discovered as a child prodigy. He may have even been a genius... and usually those with genius levels exhibit concurrent madness of a sort. I think he was largely taken advantage of by his family and sort of made to be a slave (ironically- even as he strove to become more white) to the money making machine..... I don't personally think he was guilty of pedophilia, but whether or not he was acquitted, we will never know the truth. Chances are he was molested or abused as a child and that may (in conjunction with his being famous from childhood) have contributed to his eternal child mentality. I can't fault him for that. He was sort of innocent and very sensitive....and consequently not too aware of any sort of "objective" reality. So in the end, he moved me as a child with his songs, some of them still move me and get my ass shakin'. I feel that he was a victim of his own fame..... led a sad life etc. etc.
I was roped into the memorial today and could not help but shed a tear at the outpouring and genuine collective heartbreak that was expressed. To watch his fellow musicians and friends render crushing versions of songs, with broken voices and barely being able to hold it together.... you'd have to be really jaded and cynical to not feel it (imo). I think most people (regardless of scandles and media portrayals) regard him as a pure and innocent beacon of love (philanthropy) and sincerity. I cannot argue with that sentiment. He changed pop forever and made great strides in breaking barriers for many minorities and "underdogs". Who can't identify with that persona? RIP |
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Icarium
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VIP Member Joined: March 21 2008 Location: Tigerstaden Status: Offline Points: 34055 |
Posted: July 07 2009 at 15:36 |
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i saw his memoreal koncert and my eyes got wett and when his dougther talked tha last words i cryed
 grate preformances from Stevie Wonder, Lionell Richie, Jermaine Jackson, Mariah Carrey, Usher and speaches from Barry Gordy, Smokey Robinson and many more a diserved goodbye to the King of Pop mey he rest in peace and the music live on forever Human Nature http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pjzer9dUWmg |
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rogerthat
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Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: June 29 2009 at 12:56 |
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It's not about prog or unprog, Teo, I was only talking about how the demise of artists close to one's heart can have an effect on you. For that matter, the one man's whose demise I would grieve more than anybody else's is an Indian light music composer and a genius, thankfully he's still alive...I don't know, I would probably sulk and starve for a day or two when it will happens, as it must. His name, just for information's sake, is Ilayaraja. That said, I too came to know about PF much much later than MJ but in my case, PF and particularly Wright are much closer to my heart and it especially hurts when an artist eloquently expresses his feelings about death as did Wright...it haunts you later when he's dead, at least it did to me.
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OzzProg
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Joined: January 02 2008 Location: Quebec Status: Offline Points: 540 |
Posted: June 29 2009 at 11:41 |
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Actually I heard all the characters on the front cover of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band will be collaborating for this mega-uber-epic tour (oh, and Jim Morrison will be there too) |
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CPicard
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Joined: October 03 2008 Location: Là, sui monti. Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
Posted: June 29 2009 at 08:36 |
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7 pages?
Nice. |
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Slartibartfast
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Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam Joined: April 29 2006 Location: Atlantais Status: Offline Points: 29630 |
Posted: June 29 2009 at 07:07 |
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Elvis can come back and play guitar with him. Thank you. Thank you very much. |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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someone_else
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VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24302 |
Posted: June 29 2009 at 03:33 |
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Apparently true: after Thriller, he seemed increasingly undead to me. The last few years he gave me the creeps when I saw him on TV.
By the way, The Return of the King, part III of the Lord of the Rings-trilogy, opens with Sméagol turning into Gollum. In a short moment, he showed a striking resemblance with Michael Jackson. Edited by someone_else - June 29 2009 at 03:34 |
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Gianthogweed
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Joined: August 22 2005 Status: Offline Points: 224 |
Posted: June 29 2009 at 03:27 |
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Rick Wright's death affected me more. As much as I liked MJ as a kid, I felt he had been dead for a long time. There was a chance he could make a comeback, but just too much bad stuff had happened to him, and he had done too many bad things for me to really get past all that. Listening to his music actually wasn't the same anymore knowing what he had become. Things were kind of looking up for him with the whole Jackson 5 reunion, but part of me knew that it wasn't going to happen. I dont' know why, I just knew something was going to cancel it. I wasn't expecting this though. The good thing about his death is that it's no longer so uncomfortable to play his music anymore. This is probably why you're hearing so much of it now. It's also kind of strange actually.
When Rick Wright died though it was a much bigger blow to me. Rick had just come off the tour with Gilmour and I had just gotten the Royal Albert Hall DVD. He looked so happy, the band sounded better than ever, everything was looking up. They had done the live 8 reunion and it seemed like a full out Floyd reunion could really happen. Then Rick died. I didn't know he had cancer and I was shocked. It really bummed me out. In fact, I was just as sad as when I found out George Harrison died.
It just makes me, all the more, want my favorite bands to reunite before it's too late. Genesis, get with Gabriel and Hackett. Moody Blues, reconcile with Pinder and get Ray Thomas out of retirement. Renaissance, reconcile with Jon Camp and get it together again. Just one more album and tour. Edited by Gianthogweed - June 29 2009 at 03:36 |
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Atavachron
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 30 2006 Location: Pearland Status: Offline Points: 65268 |
Posted: June 29 2009 at 03:09 |
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npjnpj
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Joined: December 05 2007 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 2720 |
Posted: June 29 2009 at 03:03 |
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No way could he still be alive. Even if he had arrived at the hospital in time, the resuscitation would have split him open in about 200 different places |
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OzzProg
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Joined: January 02 2008 Location: Quebec Status: Offline Points: 540 |
Posted: June 28 2009 at 21:23 |
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He is faking his death, so he can for real COME BACK TO LIFE for his Thriller tour.
(This was probably mentioned somewhere with me missing it on the previous 6 pages. If so, smite me) |
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The T
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: June 28 2009 at 21:18 |
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Sorry to be so un-prog in this case but I felt MJ's departure more than Rick Wright's... I loved PF music much more than MJ's, but the latter had much more impact in my surroundings than the former and I grew up surrounded by MJ. I didn't know who Rick wright was until I dig into PF...
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19535 |
Posted: June 28 2009 at 15:43 |
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Please, I don't want to add wood to the fire, there are obvious differences between Michael Jackson and Rick Wright that I won't mention, but anyway, it's logical to feel sad when somebody who has played musivc you loved die, specially when this person was a gentleman.
As a fact I felt sad for the dead of Rick, even when didn't mouned, but would lie if I didn't said that his departure affected me much more.
Iván
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someone_else
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VIP Member Joined: May 02 2008 Location: Going Bananas Status: Offline Points: 24302 |
Posted: June 28 2009 at 13:59 |
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I felt less struck by the death of Michael Jackson than I did when Richard Wright died last September, even though the latter was more than fourteen years older when he died. I have never been a fan of MJ, though I have to admit that he had great talents. Nevertheless, it is sad news, no matter whether the charges against him were true or false.
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rogerthat
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Joined: September 03 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 9869 |
Posted: June 27 2009 at 22:47 |
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He was the first Western artist to register in my childhood consciousness, his rise coincided with Russia-like state controlled television programming finally going away and MTV invading India. But since my parents were never into Western music, I never followed up on his songs all these years and doesn't look like I am interested in it right now either. Maybe sometime in the distant future, who knows. Have to say though from looking at the videos going around on TV that he was a much better dancer than I had given him credit for all these years, I knew he was good, but man, he was marvellous!
 Too bad I don't relate to dancing and also can't relate to his music; nevertheless, a monumental pop icon is gone. Rest In Peace.I sort of see Ivan's point about a celebrity's death being no more important than that of the average Joe but I am not sure I would feel the same way if one of my favourite musicians passed away because I felt very sad when Rick Wright passed away last year, for instance (and listening to Great Gig...acquired a new colour ever since) and a lot of people here would agree. And I agree with Henry Plainview. I feel sad that his life was so screwed up. It doesn't matter if he brought it on himself and if he was asking for it on account on his popularity, nobody deserves that kind of life. And of course, it came completely out of the blue, I went,"What!! Really??" when I heard about it, to reprise the cliche.
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