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Gustavo Froes 
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 17:34 |
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Their first three albums are the only ones I've heard.
First: 10 (masterpiece)
Second: 8 (excellent)
Third: 8 (excellent)
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Abstrakt
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 17:00 |
You mean "Megalomania"  That one and "The Writ" are the only really good song on Sabotage IMO. But yeah, i was supposed to leave...
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:59 |
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^I find Sabotage incosistent, yet with some excellent material like The Writ and the other long track which I forgot it's name.
Cya man!
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:57 |
 The Quiet One wrote:
Abstrakt wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
Abstrakt wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
Abstrakt wrote:
There's ALOT of melody! 
It's strange that you don't say the same about "Paranoid"
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Huh? Paranoid? It has NOTHING to do with it! Paranoid for me is like their debut, just a bit less gloomy and a bit better more elaborated, also a bit more straight-forward hard rock/heavy rock(Iron Man/Paranoid)
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I think the 2 albums are pretty similar, and i don't think it's just me.
But hey, that's your opinion. I just find it very odd
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It's not that Master of Reality is bad per se, it's just not my cup-of-tea. If I would rate it objectively, would probably give it 4 or 5 stars.
BTW, I do like the riffs *at the begining* it's just that after the promising begining it goes way too dense and heavy. Paranoid on the other hand has War Pigs which changes times a lot of times, the same for Faires Were Boots, Rat Salad, and one or 2 more I think.
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The intro riff in "Into the Void" might be my favorite Sabbath riff 
And almost every song on Master of Reality changes tempo aswell
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Yeah but nothing as interesting as the songs from Sabbath Bloody Sabbath or Sabotage, or even Faires Were Boots and War Pigs.
And yeah, Into The Void's riff is excellent, that's why I hear it every now and then, but I really don't get a good kick out of the entire song pittily.
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I don't really like "Sabotage" that much But whatever, i'm off now! C'ya! 
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Abstrakt
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:56 |
The Quiet One wrote:
Here, with Sean Trane's own words: "After their first two stupendous albums, Sabs slightly altered their
formula, shortened their tracks (none above 5 minutes), and sacrificed
instrumental interplay in favour of tighter songwriting and further
rifferama galore."
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"Into the Void" - 6:12
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:56 |
Abstrakt wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
Abstrakt wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
Abstrakt wrote:
There's ALOT of melody!
It's strange that you don't say the same about "Paranoid"
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Huh? Paranoid? It has NOTHING to do with it! Paranoid for me is like their debut, just a bit less gloomy and a bit better more elaborated, also a bit more straight-forward hard rock/heavy rock(Iron Man/Paranoid)
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I think the 2 albums are pretty similar, and i don't think it's just me.
But hey, that's your opinion. I just find it very odd
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It's not that Master of Reality is bad per se, it's just not my cup-of-tea. If I would rate it objectively, would probably give it 4 or 5 stars.
BTW, I do like the riffs *at the begining* it's just that after the promising begining it goes way too dense and heavy. Paranoid on the other hand has War Pigs which changes times a lot of times, the same for Faires Were Boots, Rat Salad, and one or 2 more I think.
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The intro riff in "Into the Void" might be my favorite Sabbath riff
And almost every song on Master of Reality changes tempo aswell
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Yeah but nothing as interesting as the songs from Sabbath Bloody Sabbath or Sabotage, or even Faires Were Boots and War Pigs. And yeah, Into The Void's riff is excellent, that's why I hear it every now and then, but I really don't get a good kick out of the entire song pittily.
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Abstrakt
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:52 |
The Quiet One wrote:
Abstrakt wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
Abstrakt wrote:
There's ALOT of melody!
It's strange that you don't say the same about "Paranoid"
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Huh? Paranoid? It has NOTHING to do with it! Paranoid for me is like their debut, just a bit less gloomy and a bit better more elaborated, also a bit more straight-forward hard rock/heavy rock(Iron Man/Paranoid)
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I think the 2 albums are pretty similar, and i don't think it's just me.
But hey, that's your opinion. I just find it very odd
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It's not that Master of Reality is bad per se, it's just not my cup-of-tea. If I would rate it objectively, would probably give it 4 or 5 stars.
BTW, I do like the riffs *at the begining* it's just that after the promising begining it goes way too dense and heavy. Paranoid on the other hand has War Pigs which changes times a lot of times, the same for Faires Were Boots, Rat Salad, and one or 2 more I think.
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The intro riff in "Into the Void" might be my favorite Sabbath riff And almost every song on Master of Reality changes tempo aswell
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:51 |
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Here, with Sean Trane's own words: "After their first two stupendous albums, Sabs slightly altered their
formula, shortened their tracks (none above 5 minutes), and sacrificed
instrumental interplay in favour of tighter songwriting and further
rifferama galore."
Sinkadotentree words: "I suppose that was because it was so heavy and straightforward"
Edited by The Quiet One - June 17 2009 at 16:54
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:48 |
Abstrakt wrote:
The Quiet One wrote:
Abstrakt wrote:
There's ALOT of melody!
It's strange that you don't say the same about "Paranoid"
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Huh? Paranoid? It has NOTHING to do with it! Paranoid for me is like their debut, just a bit less gloomy and a bit better more elaborated, also a bit more straight-forward hard rock/heavy rock(Iron Man/Paranoid)
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I think the 2 albums are pretty similar, and i don't think it's just me.
But hey, that's your opinion. I just find it very odd
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It's not that Master of Reality is bad per se, it's just not my cup-of-tea. If I would rate it objectively, would probably give it 4 or 5 stars. BTW, I do like the riffs *at the begining* it's just that after the promising begining it goes way too dense and heavy. Paranoid on the other hand has War Pigs which changes times a lot of times, the same for Faires Were Boots, Rat Salad, and one or 2 more I think.
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Abstrakt
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:44 |
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:43 |
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Abstrakt
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:40 |
There's ALOT of melody! It's strange that you don't say the same about "Paranoid"
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The Doctor
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:40 |
1. Sabbath Bloody Sabbath
2. Heaven and Hell
3. Paranoid
4. Cross Purposes
5. Sabotage
6. Black Sabbath
7. Mob Rules
8. IV
9. Tyr
10. Masters of Reality
11. Headless Cross
12. Eternal Idol
13. Dehumanizer
14. Technical Ecstasy
15. Never Say Die
16. Forbidden
I know, I didn't really rate them, just put them in order from fav to least fav, but let's say the top is 5 stars and the bottom is about 1.5 stars. And I really like everything up through #13. Only the last three are albums I could do without.
 I knew I was forgetting an album or two. Born Again...place that between Tyr and MoR, and Seventh Star between NSD and Forbidden.
Edited by The Doctor - June 17 2009 at 16:43
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:39 |
^  There's nothing that grabbs me......no melody.....
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Abstrakt
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:38 |
You really are silly. And serious this time!  The riffs are pure awesomeness. But not too heavy, there's still alot of blues in there. How about "Orchid" or "Solitude"?
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 16:22 |
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^it's way TOO HEAVY you know. It's just based on really heavy riffs, but REALLY HEAVY!!! Can't listen to it without having a ear-shock-attack
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Abstrakt
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 15:54 |
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 15:37 |
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Abstrakt
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 13:58 |
Yeah... I've been obsessed with Black Sabbath in periods for about 4-5 years now 
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