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guitargods2009
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Posted: September 26 2009 at 05:02 | |
This would never be an easy one to answer without further indepth discussion and likewise debating as well. A quick answer would be King Crimson. Here's why. While groups like Yes, Pink Floyd, Genesis and even Rush actually exsisted before Crimso offically formed, they weren't condsidered progressive rock then (though some of them might of displayed early signs of progressing but not so much during this early period). The term progressive rock didn't even exsist until it was applied by music reviewers regarding King Crimson's early live performances and record reviews in publications such as MNE and Melody Maker. And unlike any of the bands mentioned earlier, King Crimson was a progressive rock unit right from day one unlike their contemporaries like Pink Floyd (starting out as a psychedelic act), Jethro Tull (blues-rock) or Mooody Blues (R&B) for example. Bands like the Beatles and the Mothers were exploring uncharted musical boundries in the mid-60's in essence progressing from what was the norm at the time (call it proto-prog if you will). And then a revamped Moody Blues would go and release an album entitled "Days Of Future Passed" which further instilled the movement toward prog. But one would just need to listen to "In The Court..." by KC to actually hear of what was to become beacuse there was definetly nothing like it at all prior to it's release. Such bands immediately took notice and the rest is prog history.
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: September 25 2009 at 20:28 | |
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inrainbows
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Posted: September 25 2009 at 18:38 | |
...And on the 7th day He created PROG, and He was more than happy!!
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Visioner
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Posted: September 25 2009 at 18:17 | |
More a collaborative creation than an invention.
More and more added on. Building upon that which started before.
Finally takes a definable and recognizable form.
Sorta like a snowman. Only more magical and melodic.
But recognize: the orginal snowball was definitely the Beatles.
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Look beyond the obvious or you will see only the mundane.
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sealchan
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Posted: September 25 2009 at 17:56 | |
From my limited point of view and to use volleyball as a metaphor... ...The Beatles set the ball and all the rest spiked it over the net!
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Rushlover13
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 19:05 | |
King Crimson, definatly.
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I Love Rush.
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Logan
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 11:48 | |
It's an interesting topic, I think. I haven't read through the thread, but I would have included Cream on the list. And of course The Beach Boys. I think one could also include bands such as The Byrds.
Very notable missing options: The Mothers of Invention and Soft Machine. I'm voting other. |
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CPicard
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 10:53 | |
Wasn't this thread asleep since May? Did we need to revive him?
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omri
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 10:09 | |
I did not vote. As many others here I believe it is not an invention but kind of evolution (yes, Darwin again).
However, for first steps in that evolution I seriously suggest Igor Stravinsky. I think he is the first one that wrote music that affected both, heart and brain.
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Cinderella Man
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Posted: September 24 2009 at 08:59 | |
i'll go with Pink Floid
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The Whistler
Prog Reviewer Joined: August 30 2006 Location: LA, CA Status: Offline Points: 7113 |
Posted: September 24 2009 at 04:20 | |
Who invented prog? Procol Harum. No, wait, The Beach Boys. Gah, screw it, I bet it was Bach. Ah, but who was the first prog rock BAND? Hmm...probably Crimso. |
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J-Man
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Posted: September 23 2009 at 18:52 | |
In The Court of The Crimson King was the first actual prog album IMO, but The Beatles had many leading up to that.
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llamalime
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Posted: September 20 2009 at 23:08 | |
Beethoven.
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Chris S
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Posted: May 23 2009 at 04:06 | |
I think Floyd did before KC, but Procul Harum led the way by days.....
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: May 23 2009 at 03:54 | |
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: May 23 2009 at 03:50 | |
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A Person
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Posted: May 23 2009 at 00:08 | |
Atually, without Tesla it very well could be that electronic music has progressed as far as it has. How could prog exist without mellotrons or hammond organs? Maybe the electric guitar might not have been as prominent as it has been if it wasn't for AC. I would have to say that I think In the Court of the Crimson King is the first fully fledged prog album, although I'm not saying The Moody Blues weren't prog, they seem more cross-over to me. ITCOTCK seems a lot less conventional because Days of Future Passed still has the feeling of conventional songs within the overall album, but KC has parts that are completely unconventional, like the ending of Moon Child. Still, I guess The Moody Blues did come firster. |
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cronholm
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Posted: May 22 2009 at 18:11 | |
No one invented Prog.
But one day, Prog looked at the world and thought: "Hmmm. There's something missing here." And lo and behold did he invent some bands to properly shape the sounds in his head so that mere mortals could hear them too. And all was well with the world.
From Genesis: XIV, part XXV (unabridged version)
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Scarlet
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Posted: May 22 2009 at 09:51 | |
Other invented prog.
Wikipedia says:
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SaltyJon
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Posted: May 20 2009 at 12:11 | |
I'd say the first progressive stuff was the Big Bang. Nothing before it sounded even remotely like it (that we know of). Therefore my vote goes to Other.
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