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Dean 
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout
Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
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 Posted: April 25 2009 at 14:27 |
I guess I'm close to Pat and Mike though in conversations with both of them on the forum Mike is years a head of me on software and Pat could run rings around me on hardware.
I'm an electronics engineer specialising in mixed signal and DSP, covering frequencies from just below RF down to subsonics. Software forms a major part of what I do, but it is only a tool needed to do my job much like a 'scope or a spectrum analyser is. I have tried chip design using Verilog in the past but I wasn't quite smart enough (okay at layout though). I'm an IT manager by default on a mixed PC and Sun network and I hate it - brain the size of a planet, been on MCP courses, can build servers from scratch and all I do is change frigging ink cartridges.
I can program machine code and assembler for Z80 and 680x0 processors, but lost interest when the 80186 came along so I've never really bothered learning the ins and outs of programming the PC to that depth, but find VisualBasic does most of what I need on that platform. C is a doddle, C++ and C# have the ability to do my head in at times so I have a bad habit of dropping into C when I get lost, but generally I can fumble my way around.
On this scale I'd say I'm 4.8 since I may have been able to hack at sometime in the dim and distant past, or not, but you can't prove anything and I'll deny it anyway and I may have been involved in cracking at sometime too, or I may not, again, you can't prove anything, and if you can then it wasn't me. Okay?
Edited by Dean - April 25 2009 at 14:30
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Alitare
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Joined: March 08 2008
Location: New York
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Points: 3595
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 14:08 |
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I am actually in networking in college, myself. I have programming/script editing experience, via .net and others. I also have some web design under my belt. Years of repair and IT experience, and a complex working knowledge of the internet and its facets. I could say a solid 4(possibly rounded up from a high three). 5? no, as I am still in the learning process of most higher functioning things. Plus, I hate subnetting.
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harmonium.ro
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Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: August 18 2008
Location: Anna Calvi
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Points: 22989
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 13:31 |
Now let's all wait for Vibrationbaby to post... ...if he manages to 
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el böthy
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 27 2005
Location: Argentina
Status: Offline
Points: 6336
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 13:03 |
Technology hates me...  What have I ever done to it?
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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rpe9p
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Joined: December 31 2008
Location: Charlottesville
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Points: 485
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 13:01 |
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I'm a computer science major, so everyone assumes I know a lot about computers, but I never know the kinds of things people expect me to. I could write some complex algorithms, give you a good software design for your system, and probably even build a computer out of NAND gates, but I dont know a damn thing about how to fix your computer, install drivers, or what kind of graphics card you should buy. As for hacking, I wouldnt have a clue even if I wanted to try to do that kind of thing. If im going to have to install drivers or something like that, windows better walk me through everything or ill have no clue. Its really sad when you look at how I can know so much about computers and yet so little.
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The Pessimist
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Joined: June 13 2007
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 3834
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 10:45 |
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I'm about a 3. II mean, I have made my own viruses in the past for my own amusement (they are deleted from my system now), and I'm pretty familiar with ms-dos format (command prompt), but I can't do any programming or anything like that.
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg
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Mr ProgFreak
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 08 2008
Location: Sweden
Status: Offline
Points: 5195
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 08:34 |
I'm an IT professional specializing in web-applications ... I guess I could hack you if I wanted to. 
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Raff
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Joined: July 29 2005
Location: None
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Points: 24429
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 08:23 |
I'd say a 2, which is good, since it stops me from being an idiot  .
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Failcore
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Joined: October 27 2006
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Points: 4625
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 08:13 |
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Ah, well hardware counts too if that's what you're good at. I'm decent at HDL and basic analog circuit theory and digital logic concepts, but I'd have to brush up on it if you wanted me to make anything more complicated than a mux (or a simple power supply on the analog side.)
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Padraic
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Joined: February 16 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 08:07 |
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Well, I'm an electrical engineer, not a programmer, so I'm an expert in MATLAB and a novice in C (haven't had to write many C programs, really). So a 4 for this poll, but a 5 in overall tech geekiness, I'd say.
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Failcore
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 08:03 |
 Vompatti wrote:
A high 2, I'd say. I've done some html programming and tried to learn "real" programming several times (C++, Pascal, Basic etc.) without success.
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I'm a C++ man, myself, but I've used PHP, TCL/TK, QT, MySQL, HTML, Javascript, and others. I've basically done enough programming that if you give me a reference page and an example or two, I can figure it out pretty quickly. All programming follows the same logic more or less. Well, really high-level stuff like HTML is different. And so is low-level stuff like assembly. But in general, it's all very similar.
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 21 2007
Location: n/a
Status: Offline
Points: 8052
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 08:01 |
Deathrabbit wrote:
@ Orb -What language did you work with?
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Was screwing around at a pretty basic level with C++... the CDs I've got for that have stopped working, though, and I was never particularly good at it.
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Vompatti
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Joined: October 22 2005
Location: elsewhere
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Points: 67442
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:59 |
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A high 2, I'd say. I've done some html programming and tried to learn "real" programming several times (C++, Pascal, Basic etc.) without success.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Joined: December 24 2007
Location: Ukraine
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Points: 25210
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:55 |
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Haha, you quoted my post before I got to finish editing. Hate it when that happens.
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Failcore
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Joined: October 27 2006
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Points: 4625
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:54 |
Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:
That's advanced? (Installing drivers etc?)
That's advanced? (Installing drivers etc?)
Christ, any idiot can do that, lol.
I
thought that was the absolute minimum you needed to know to be honest,
so I learnt stuff. It seems to work, my computer has been problem free
since I got it in December 2007.
I sure as hell can't hack though,
but to be fair computers are not a big interest of mine, so it's not
something I'm interesting in learning all that much. I could handle a
little basic programming, but haven't done much lately.
I used to create my own maps for Quake II FWIW, I guess that's not totally beginner stuff.
Vote of 2 for me.
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Well, you'd be surprised. My grandparents can't work their Ipod without an hour long conversation with me on every single mouse click they should make in iTunes.
Edited by Deathrabbit - April 25 2009 at 07:59
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Failcore
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Points: 4625
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:52 |
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@ Orb -What language did you work with?
Edited by Deathrabbit - April 25 2009 at 07:54
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micky
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Joined: October 02 2005
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Points: 46838
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:52 |
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hahah... the big zippo here...
true story.... Ivan had to show me how to use MSN chat...
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Joined: December 24 2007
Location: Ukraine
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Points: 25210
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:52 |
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That's advanced? (Installing drivers etc?)
Christ, any idiot can do that, lol.
I thought that was the absolute minimum you needed to know to be honest, so I learnt stuff. It seems to work, my computer has been problem free since I got it in December 2007.
I sure as hell can't hack though, but to be fair computers are not a big interest of mine, so it's not something I'm interesting in learning all that much. I could handle a little basic programming, but haven't done much lately.
I used to create my own maps for Quake II FWIW, I guess that's not totally beginner stuff.
Vote of 2 for me.
Edited by Petrovsk Mizinski - April 25 2009 at 07:54
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TGM: Orb
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Joined: October 21 2007
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Points: 8052
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:51 |
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Yeah, I'm definitely a 2, then. Did some very basic programming a bit back, and I don't have any trouble doing anything I need to short of that.
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Failcore
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Joined: October 27 2006
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Points: 4625
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Posted: April 25 2009 at 07:45 |
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Installing drivers/software, tweaking stuff. Fixing minor errors that you run into, that sort of thing.
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